50 Shades of Grey: Trash or Treasure?

Discussion in 'Book and movie reviews' started by Divine Mistress Angelique, May 19, 2012.

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What do you think the domination and submission scenes portrayed in "50 Shades Of Grey:"

  1. They exemplify the lifestyle in a true and emotionally honest fashion.

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  2. It's just a lot of romantic pulp to sell books.

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  3. Is pure porn and of little or no redeeming value.

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  4. All of the above.

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  5. None of the above; see my comments below:

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  1. Divine Mistress Angelique
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    As you know, it has always been my plan to have jamie/Tina publish an account of how he became my cuckold, and his first year as my cuckold. Now I hear, on a daily basis, how great "50 Shades of Grey," is, and how it is "porn for women." Its success makes me wonder if Tina's accounts could ever be made into a book. I know it would take a lot of rewritting by a good editor, but that's what editors are for, aren't they.

    In any case, leave a comment or opinion. Even if you haven't read the book, if you have an opinion on how Tina's story should be written and distributed, please share with us. If you have read the book I'm very keen to get your insights. I haven't ordered it yet because I intend to buy a Kindle or iPad or some other tablet, but haven't decided on the final format yet.

    Thanks in advance for your input.


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    Publish!! I cant wait to see this in comprehensive story. You two both write well and this has been a fascinating read to me for a couple of years now at least. I would love to see it.
     
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    Mistress Angelique,

    You have a most unusual story to tell that many people would be interested in reading. Your audience is very limited but with the Internet, you can reach that limited audience.

    If you look at the successes of others, it may help to guide you in the right direction. One that comes to mind is the malechastityblog.com website. It is written by a wife whose husband, several year ago, brought up chastity to her. They have an interest in chastity but no D/S at all. She started writing her and her husbands journey, and got lots of email questions and saw the demand for a vanilla style series of articles for those who only want chastity and nothing else. You signed up (and gave your email address) to get her articles and this started an email list of "prospects". Emails and letters she got also added to this email list. She found her audience and then starting writing more articles, then books. In her case, she was selling 'educational' material from her experiences and the letters she got and that helped make it popular. It's now one of the leading chastity books and perhaps even on Amazon. At first her articles were free and then she started charging for her writings.

    You need to attract an audience, You have one here at this site but I know you have a blog and you might want to start doing it on a regular basis. You will attract an audience (please ignore the idiots and trolls that will show up) that will give you feedback on your stories. I find that reading Tina's feelings is what attracts me to it. And of course the wierd things done to him. And I love to hear your comments as well, particularly the loving feelings you express.

    I think the best approach is as a love story, albeit a strange one. I think the spiritual aspect of your relationship is also interesting as I feel that sexuality, if done right, can lead to spiritual growth.

    One of the things I think you have going for you is the sheer shock value that your lifestyle entails. It should keep a reader glued to the book.

    I feel that you are such a good communicator that you should either write in this book or write one from your point of view, kind of a companion book to Tina's. Your writing is so enjoyable, I think you shouldn't deprive the reader of it. And the female point of view is not as common and as such is more welcome.

    Since book publishing costs are high, publishing electronically costs you basically nothing, but I suggest selling it initially through your own dot com website.

    Personally, I like the writing quality and style I've seen so far, I'm not sure you need an editor. You can certainly sell (or give some away free for evaulation) an initial book and get feedback as to whether or not you need an editor and what the reader likes or dislikes. The beauty of the Internet is that you can easily share and get feedback. You don't have to write one perfect book, you can release one of more chapters at a time, and rewrite or write another book.

    I do a lot of writing and find it's best to just get it on paper (I mean word processor) and then go over it. This prevents writers block. Just write anything. The second or third pass will clean it up but you have to have something there in the first place.

    And make sure to backup your work. I would suggest saving the book under different names as you go along so you have a number of versions of it. Never have one version as it could be trashed by your word processor under the right conditions (like a sudden power failure). I just append a number or letter after my title when I do the Save As so I'll end up with a number of versions. Also save the book to a server so even if disaster strikes your house, you have a backup off premises.

    And, of course, let us know here since you have your initial audience on this site. It might help to restore your "Cruel to be Kind" posts (I'm sure they can remove the troll postings) to attract more potential readers. Right not, no one coming to this site knows about you. You need a have a post in order to point people to your blog or website.

    Case in point: Before Chastity Mansion, Mistress Watchful was a regular poster on ChastityLifestyle.com. She made friends there, then started this site and advertised it on the ChastityLifestyle site (or I should say mentioned it in her posts). She took a lot of people away from that site. I don't think this was preplanned, it just happened.

    The wonderful thing is when doing something like this, putting something out there, you never know where it will lead or what exciting things will happen, and what will grow out of it in the future. Perhaps a best seller?

    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    Best of luck.
     
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    Not had time to read it yet, but I've seen it No 1 bestseller in my local Waterstone's and its 2 sequels.
     
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    I must admit, I expected to get all kinds of feedback on "50 Shades of Grey." Based on the publicity it is receiving I thought everyone and their mother had read it.



    Movie recommendation:

    Last night I watched a movie on Showtime I found interesting and touching. It is titled: “After Fall, Winter.” It will be showing several more times over the coming week or two, at least in the US.

    It is the story of a failed writer who moves to Paris where he meets a young woman who counsels the dying. They start dating and eventually reach a point where they agree to be completely honest with each other. But they both have a secret they do not tell the other. He is a submissive who frequents professional dominatrices, and her “night job” is as a professional dominatrix. It is not a comedy; the subject matter is treated quite seriously.
     
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    Thanks to all for their comments, especially dboy who took the trouble to offer such detailed advice. You made me give a lot of thought to this, which brought me to a “eureka moment.” Before I tell you about that, let me address a few of the points you brought up.

    I am familiar with the malechastityblog.com and chastitylifestyle.com. Due to past bad experiences I will have nothing to do with the latter. Unless it has changed in the last year or two, it seems there are members there that take potshots at every thread and comment. This is why I loved Chastity Mansion. I felt so at home here until some members called us things that felt like a knife in the heart, and another in the back. These are deep wounds that may take a while to heal; this is why I do not wish to reopen our thread. Many members here recommend fetlife. I have registered there, but I have yet to explore.

    As far as my own blog goes, I stopped updating it when I was informed by Google that no one is allowed to make money on adult blogs (meaning a share of the revenue generated by Google ads that are on the blogs). Does anyone know of any blog host that does share revenues with the blogger of adult material?

    Regarding your note to write more from my point of view: that is something I have always felt would be interesting, a sort of he said/she said where we could both write about certain experiences form our own perspectives. The reason I have not done it very much is because there were so many things I didn’t want Tina to know about. But over three years have passed, and I think Tina has surmised or deduced much of what my hopes and plans are for our relationship.

    That’s what brought me to my “eureka moment.” Originally I simply wanted jamie to write about his experiences to make his humiliation more public. But now I see that if this is to work as a relationship story, a love story, a spiritual story, it must have an end. It can’t just be an account of jamie’s journal for a few months or a year.

    It must have a resolution, an ending. Given her health, and the fact that I don’t know how long Tina’s training will take, that resolution will probably have to be fictionalized. But even if it is, it will be based on my hopes, dreams and plans for our relationship, as well as Tina’s hopes and dreams. She obviously gets no say in the plans.

     
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    Mistress Angelique,

    Thank you for your kind words. I'm very happy to be of service and absolutely delighted that my post was so helpful to you.

    Given how much has happened to your relationship in just a few years, you might be able to write two books, one on what's happened so far and another later on about the 'fictionalized' future. This will help to separate fact from fiction. It will leave the reader wanting book two and will give you many months, perhaps a year or more, to not only write about the future but experience some of this future.

    I think if you combined all of the posts that you and Tina have written on this site so far, you already have a short book.

    As for making money with a blog, I think the format is too limited, and you will always be under someone elses rules. Even if you find the right blog, it may, in the future, be merged or bought out by someone not approving of what you're doing. So at that point you may have to move and this will hurt you in the sense that all of your traffic and web searches are used to your blog address. You should get a domain named web site, they're really cheap. You can do anything you want and you can use it for monetary purposes. It will be your own home on the web.

    Fetlife is a great site, the people there really have their heads together. But the format is more of a question posed and many answers given. It's different than how this forum works. The 'author' of the post can write more but it's usually in response to one or more of the other responses. There are number of groups you could participate in, give it a try. But again, not a money making proposition.

    I'm also very saddened to hear how hurt you've been by a few clueless idiots who had the nerve to criticize something they knew nothing about.

    Please don't take it personally, anyone who creates a blog or website or posts will get their share of morons. The Edge of Vanilla, for example, is a very common sense and popular site, but the owner gets a steady stream of morons who feel they have the moral authority to tell others how to live. The same is true of the MaleChastityBlog site. It's an occupational hazard. These people aren't worth thinking about. You know your lifestyle is quite different so if you told a random person on the street, what would they say? Does their opinion matter or should you get upset about it?

    You can certainly feel upset but don't BE upset. Feel the feeling but don't identify with it. My spiritual wisdom of the day :)
     
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    dboy

    Thank you again. I feel a strong loyalty to the good people here, so I will publish our story here at least as long as we continue to be respected and appreciated. I will also update my current, or a new blog, so there is a place where people can read the story in uninterrupted continuity, with no outside comments and trolling included. If all goes well we can then consider a personal website.
     
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    Mistress Angelique,

    Again, you're most welcome.

    Conerning trolls, this forum is well moderated. If you talk to the moderators before posting your story, I'm sure they will remove any troll posts that might occur. People like that do not belong on this site and will probably be removed. As you know, the moderators here are very caring and concerned.
     
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