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neosteel abus lock dimensions?

Discussion in 'Full Belts' started by Yaquiran, Apr 3, 2013.

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    Hello, I have been looking at neosteel belts for a long time now (several years) and hope to someday purchase one. I had a question for anyone who has their belts: What are the dimensions of the supplied abus lock? I was wanting to use a different type of abus lock, but obviously it would have to fit correctly. From some of the pictures on the ns site, it appears they use the abus 45/30. I'd like to use either an abus 88/40 or the 75IB/30, which are more secure. I have unfortunately not been able to find the necessary dimensions of the 45/30 lock: shackle diameter, vertical clearance, horizonal clearance, and lock body thickness. I suspect that the 88/40 would not fit since the 40 indicates it's 10mm wider than the 45/30 model. Can any owners share this information?
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    neosteel is using 60/30 abus locks or the stainless steel snap lock..i prefer the abus lock !!
    more questions ?? just ask !!
    best regards ..GWENY

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    What are the pros and cons of the two Neosteel lock options?
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    Thanks, gweny. I tried to look up the 60/30 to find the dimensions and unfortunately was unsuccessful. Did you by chance have any way to get them? As I said in my post, I'd need to know the shackle diameter, vertical clearance, horizonal clearance, and lock body thickness, either in mm or inches. Would be great if an abus 88/40 fit.
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    no ... sorry ,i get them only from neosteel , and that is were you can get one as well !! reg. GWENY
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    I did attempt to contact neosteel about the dimensions, but they never replied to my inquiry, unfortunately.
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    I don't think it would be worth their time to handle only padlocks. That's like asking a Porsche dealer to sell you seat-belts.
    If you want a more secure lock does that mean you think the locks that come with a neosteel belt are not secure? I assume any lock specialist could pick the abus lock in seconds. If it's security you want have the seal bolts added and use numbered metal cable seals. What is it about the locks you are suspicious of, do they keep you chaste?
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    Indeed, I don't expect them (neosteel) to sell other locks than the basic pin tumbler one provided. I would get it elsewhere. I would just want one "more" secure than the default provided. Perhaps it's not an issue, but it seemed "better" to get a more secure model lock (provided it fit of course, which is why I'm trying to find the measurements of the default abus one) and use that one instead. I guess it's for peace of mind or such. The 88/40 is a very secure one (disc detaining type) from what I've read, but I don't think it would fit.

    You are correct about the seal bolts and such, I will keep that in mind as well.
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    I was looking at this same issue the other day :)

    Firstly, ABUS couldn't sell Pepsi in a desert and their website is awful, here is a dealer catalogue for more info
    http://www.abusdealer.co.uk/images/ABUS _2011_Oct_Price_List_LowRes.pdf

    The seal idea is nice but it doesn't add to the physical security, which is the main thought here I think.

    I believe the belts that use a captive shackle can be amended by replacing the belt's pin for an alternative, either wider or deeper. A guy with a lathe should be able to manufacture something. Certainly I would prefer to see something which fully enclosed the shackle to prevent leverage, and some form of obstruction to deter lock picking.

    The warded keyway is ideal for security, an alternative is a dimple style lock being slightly harder to pick than the conventional keyway.


    I did find some alternatives and their dimensions for you, hth :)


    Model: 75IB/30 (marine)

    Shackle Dia. 3/16"
    Shackle Height 21/32"
    Shackle Width 5/8"

    Body Size Width 1-1/4" (31.8mm)
    Body Size Thickness 1/2"
    Body Length 1-1/4"

    Vertical Clearance 11/16"
    Number of Pins 8


    Width a [mm]: 30
    Horizontal clearance b [mm]: 16
    Vertical clearance c [mm]: 17
    Shackle diameter d [mm]: 5
    Depth e [mm]: 14
    Height f [mm]: 54

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    Padlock brass 75/30

    Width a [mm]: 30
    Horizontal clearance b [mm]: 16
    Vertical clearance c [mm]: 17
    Shackle diameter d [mm]: 5
    Depth e [mm]: 14
    Height f [mm]: 54


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    Abus 88 40

    Overall width: 40mm
    Overall height: 72mm
    Overall depth: 19mm
    Shackle width: 22mm
    Shackle height: 22mm
    Shackle Dia: 7mm

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