Milking Day

Lady Germaine said:
This particular Xtube member certainly posts some interesting milking videos...

http://www.xtube.com...user=jennifer3d

I'm not sure where to find that curved barbell-looking thingy, but it seems like quite an effective tool. :smile:
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Curtsy Lady Germaine
It is a nice video Mistress. I really like the fact that you can see her wedding ring while she milks herself. & how happy & contented she looks when she is licking her cum up. i think i know what that barbell thing is its some kind of metal anoros type thing that i have seen on various sites.
The time is rapidly approaching when i will need a plan for myself so i will probably look into the Aneros options again.
emily
 
Hello Lady Germaine.
I like your choice of words, "interesting videos...". Am I to assume correctly that you like the videos? I always wonder whether any of the Mistresses/Wives/Keyholders/Girllfriends here truly like seeing that kind of activity or whether it is just fodder for our depraved, submissive male fantasies :>)? Did you watch all of the videos that user offers in their link? If so, do you have an opinion on the video where he was taken by another man? Sorry if I sound like I am prying. I am always interested in what really goes on in the mind of a woman sexually which is why I ask. I know this is a journey for all of us and I hope to educate myself along the way...would you expect any less from a fellow Pennsylvanian? :>)
Thanks!
allaboutHer
 
Strict Sir said:
Exactly. You even see the term 'milking' used to denote a hand job. But, in my opinion, especially as relates to chastity, it means massage of the prostate to release seminal fluid without allowing the male a pleasurable ejaculatory response.
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I totally agree. I think the actual definition as it relates to chastity refers to prostate massge to
express semen, but I too am guilty of using it to mean defferent things. When asked, I say my sissy is
only milked, which I mean is not allowed a pleasurable orgasm, but is done via massage, slow tease and
denial, or ruined orgasms.

You are correct Brenda. My sissy had told me that removing stimulation just before they start to
ejaculate is very frustrating and provides no pleasure at all as the semen oozes out. In fact sissy
says it is even worse than not being teased at all. Took some practice to learn to read the signals
and know when to slow down or stop, but now I never miss, much to my sissy's disappointment and
continued frustration.
 
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karent_50 said:
I totally agree. I think the actual definition as it relates to chastity refers to prostate massge to
express semen, but I too am guilty of using it to mean defferent things. When asked, I say my sissy is
only milked, which I mean is not allowed a pleasurable orgasm, but is done via massage, slow tease and
denial, or ruined orgasms.

You are correct Brenda. My sissy had told me that removing stimulation just before they start to
ejaculate is very frustrating and provides no pleasure at all as the semen oozes out. In fact sissy
says it is even worse than not being teased at all. Took some practice to learn to read the signals
and know when to slow down or stop, but now I never miss, much to my sissy's disappointment and
continued frustration.
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Curtsy Ms Karen
Does that still maintain the desired after effects of continued obedience and attentiveness though Mistress ?. If its a ruined orgasm rather than a milking ?
emily
 
I might also add that I don't think milking is necessary for health reasons. I think the body absorbs and gets rid of any buildup of either 'precum' or semen on it's own. I'm guessing that most priests and others who have chosen a life of celibacy probably don't own an Aneros. :)

Karen, do you find that your sissy maintains arousal and frustration immediately following a ruined or abandoned 'orgasm?'

Yes, emily, a curtsy is appropriate for a Master, unless a specific Master tells you otherwise. I appreciate and expect a curtsy from a sissy. Good girl for asking. It's always good to show a sexual superior respect and deference.
 
Curty Strict Sir
Thank You Master for correcting me or affirming what i thought was appropriate. & thank You so much for calling me a good girl, i love that Master.
From what i've been reading the jury seems to be out on whether no milking or ejaculation is necessary for good prostrate health. But the jury seems to be still very much out.
Apart from the obvious topical joke about Priests. I always assumed they masturbated occasionally. But thinking about i suppose if every sperm is supposed to sacred & only for procreation perhaps they don't.
curtsy
emily
 
I'll just say again I've gone since March 27th now, with no orgasms, no milkings, no night time emissions and I'm perfectly healthy and fine and my balls didn't explode or anything.

When people say the jury is still out, I don't get it.

I have seen PLENTY of MEDICAL, SCIENTIFIC evidence that it is not neccessary because as Strict Sir says, after 28 days the body starts to absorb unused semen back into the body.

I HAVE also seen plenty of NONSCIENTIFIC, anecdotal, non-medical assumptions that it IS neccessary, but I wouldn't say a bunch of people saying it's needed without any kind of scientific back up to back their claims have the same validity as science and medicine.

I would like someone to show me one medical or scientific website that says it is definitely harmful in any way not to have releases of semen periodically.

Of course, I suppose there's still people out there who think you'll grow hair on the palms of your hands if you masturbate too much!

deena
 
SissyDeena said:
I'll just say again I've gone since March 27th now, with no orgasms, no milkings, no night time emissions and I'm perfectly healthy and fine and my balls didn't explode or anything.

When people say the jury is still out, I don't get it.

I have seen PLENTY of MEDICAL, SCIENTIFIC evidence that it is not neccessary because as Strict Sir says, after 28 days the body starts to absorb unused semen back into the body.

I HAVE also seen plenty of NONSCIENTIFIC, anecdotal, non-medical assumptions that it IS neccessary, but I wouldn't say a bunch of people saying it's needed without any kind of scientific back up to back their claims have the same validity as science and medicine.

I would like someone to show me one medical or scientific website that says it is definitely harmful in any way not to have releases of semen periodically.

Of course, I suppose there's still people out there who think you'll grow hair on the palms of your hands if you masturbate too much!

deena
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Hi deena, how about this
http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
or this
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201007/ejaculation-how-often-good-health
or this
http://menshealth.about.com/cs/prostatehealth/a/ejaculate_ptate.htm
just a sample from google
but what most of the stuff i've read seems to suggest is that the jury is still out as other environmental factors may be at play too
emily
 
Thanks for the links, Emily. They made for some interesting reading. But all three of them were about what the effects are of frequent ejaculations not really about the effects of prolonged time without any. And in fact, all three state at some point in the article that there is no proven correlation between frequency and prostate health.

Anyway, I do have to admit that even if it were a proven fact there was some risk, I'd still be happy giving them up!

deena
 
Deena i dont wanna be picky but if frequent ejaculations are good for prostrate health then by implication a lack of them is possibly bad. Yeah they all do say the effects might be influenced by other lifestyle factors rather than regular erm spurting. But thats why i said the jury is still out.
I'm not convinced myself either way.
emily
 
I am sorry but take it from a mathematician that just because A implies B, that doesn't mean not A implies NOT B.

Let me give you an example.

"People who live in England speak English." That does NOT imply or make true the statement "If you do not live in England, you do not speak English. "

Substitute "cum frequently " for "live in England " and "you'll have good prostate health " for "speak English ". :)

deena
 
SissyDeena said:
I am sorry but take it from a mathematician that just because A implies B, that doesn't mean not A implies NOT B.

Let me give you an example.

"People who live in England speak English." That does NOT imply or make true the statement "If you do not live in England, you do not speak English. "

Substitute "cum frequently " for "live in England " and "you'll have good prostate health " for "speak English ". :)

deena
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Ok deena
I dont really want to argue about this, nor anything else here at CM. But especially as this is Ms Brenda's thread celebrating Her sissy's monthly milkings.
I just like to keep myself informed about 'possible' consequences for my actions and decisions. & as i keep saying the evidence or conclusions from the studies is inconclusive.
emily
 
allaboutHer said:
Hello Lady Germaine.
I like your choice of words, "interesting videos...". Am I to assume correctly that you like the videos? I always wonder whether any of the Mistresses/Wives/Keyholders/Girllfriends here truly like seeing that kind of activity or whether it is just fodder for our depraved, submissive male fantasies :>)? Did you watch all of the videos that user offers in their link? If so, do you have an opinion on the video where he was taken by another man? Sorry if I sound like I am prying. I am always interested in what really goes on in the mind of a woman sexually which is why I ask. I know this is a journey for all of us and I hope to educate myself along the way...would you expect any less from a fellow Pennsylvanian? :>)
Thanks!
allaboutHer
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Prying? I believe the proper Pennsylvania term is "being a nosybody", AAH. LOL Actually, I don't mind at all since one of the major reasons I feel we're all here is to share knowlege and information, and help learn from one another.

When I first saw videos involving sissified and feminized males taken and used by other men, I'll admit I was a bit taken aback but as time went on and I began to understand the big picture total power exchange dynamic of the whole thing, now it doesn't bother me in the very least. As a matter of fact, if that sort of activity would be something I'd "encourage" my own subhub to engage in at some point in the future, I might actually get very turned on watching him humilated in such a fashion. Like I stated in another thread, sissified and feminized males are neither real men or real women so as a result, they should be required to be subservient to both as directed by their superiors.

A scenario where my subhub, dressed as a sissy maid, is required to orally prepare a rather large cock for the pleasure of my hot, wet pussy seems to be a recurring fantasy of mine. Whether or not that might ever become a reality remains to be seen. :smile:
 
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Curtsy Lady Germaine
It is a nice video Mistress. I really like the fact that you can see her wedding ring while she milks herself. & how happy & contented she looks when she is licking her cum up. i think i know what that barbell thing is its some kind of metal anoros type thing that i have seen on various sites.
The time is rapidly approaching when i will need a plan for myself so i will probably look into the Aneros options again.
emily
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Although this might not be the same provider of the tool "Jennifer" is using, Emily, a couple of their offerings do appear to be quite similar...

http://njoytoys.com/

I use a smooth plastic handle from a drain plunger to milk my subhub. It's just as effective and the price was much nicer as well. LOL :smile:

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Mistress Brenda,

Your sub is able to ooze just from the prostate massage? I think I successfully had a prostate miliking yesterday. I put on my CB200o and then inserted an aneros toy. My cock was just going crazy in the cage. I could feel the pressure on my prostate and wanted so bad to leak but couldn't. I took off the cage and just barely touched my glans. A small amount of clear fluid oozed out. I felt a momentary feeling of pleasure but not like a traditional orgasm. Afterwards, my balls ached for more relief and I was still so horny, it was unbearable....... This was a milking, correct?
 
thotfulsub said:
Mistress Brenda,

Your sub is able to ooze just from the prostate massage? I think I successfully had a prostate miliking yesterday. I put on my CB200o and then inserted an aneros toy. My cock was just going crazy in the cage. I could feel the pressure on my prostate and wanted so bad to leak but couldn't. I took off the cage and just barely touched my glans. A small amount of clear fluid oozed out. I felt a momentary feeling of pleasure but not like a traditional orgasm. Afterwards, my balls ached for more relief and I was still so horny, it was unbearable....... This was a milking, correct?
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Hello thotfulsub.

It is not so much that he is able to dribble cum from a prostate massage. It is not a willful act on his part. It just happens when the prostate is massaged and the penis stays small and unstimulated. If it has been a long time since a milking, there is more cum to dribble out -- and of course a bigger meal for him. When I milk him this way, there is no erection and no orgasm.

It sounds like what you did was a milking of sorts but not quite the same as what I do. Maybe the reason you didn't leak at first is because you had cum recently or because you didn't massage your prostate for a long enough period of time. In the former case, there would not be a lot of cum to dribble out. In the latter case, it takes some time for the semen to make its way to your penis. Also note my husband's dribble is actual thick cum, not just clear fluid.

My husband tells me that during a milking he feels pressure in his penis similar to the need to urinate. There is no pleasure in the sexual sense but he does feel a sense of temporary relief of his frustration. he gets very antsy when it's been about three weeks since a milking.

I hope that helps. I enjoyed comparing notes with you.
 
Misstress Brenda,

Thanks for the reply! I'm just curious, while you milk him, he stays flaccid, soft and unstimulated? Is he in chastity when you do this? I had a girlfriend a couple years ago, who would finger my ass. Sometimes I would stay hard, other times, I'd lose my erection --- which I was afraid would turn her off, so I'd rub my cock while she used her other hand to pinch my nipples, which alone, can make me so hard, it is unbelievable. When would have intercourse, I would consistently try not to cum until she gave me permission. Sometimes, I would have delayed my cumming so much and then it would be impossible or near impossible to cum even when she wanted to feel it. Other times, when I couldn't seem to cum, she would pinch and twist my nipples --- and it was almost like turning a faucet --- I'd explode........:) I practice lots of yoga and the breathing exercises from yoga have helped me to control my cumming and orgasms. I really wanted her to massage me as you described when I went limp with her finger in my butt, but one of her turn-ons was that I always got hard pretty quickly and stayed hard and she wasn't as into being eaten as I would have liked. Even though she was very dominant in her vanilla life, she like me to tie her up and many times fuck her with me holding her hands tightly above her head --- so she was giving up all control. I really wanted her to get a strap-on, but I just sensed she might not like to see me that submissive. It was kind of interesting, she liked gay male guy on guy porn, but she told me she would not want to imagine me with another guy. She wanted a threesome with two bi guys, but not with a guy with whom she was involved.....

I know what your husband means by feeling like he is going to pee. Once I sessioned with a pro-Domme and she used my aneros and combined it with the vibrating plug, while I sat in a CBT chair with clamps on my nipples. She really knew how to position the aneros because ---- for 10 minutes I felt the sensation of my glans becoming stimulated but ---- I was tied up and nothing was touching my glans...... It was as if it was I being stimulated from the inside along with the pee feeling. It was amazing......

I just wish I could learn to do it to myself.......... I've tried but not like with the Domme........:)

Thanks!
 
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Oh yes, he is always in chastity during milkings. In fact, he is almost always in chastity, period.

I do not allow erections or any manual stimulation during milkings since that can result in an orgasm. I want the cum to dribble out of his soft penis with no orgasm. And I get what I want.

I'm sure you can learn to milk yourself. It just takes a practice. It took me a little trial and error before I learned to do it to my husband. Now it's easy.
 
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Yes, milking is via prostate massage. The actual reason that a milking is suggested every three months or so, is that many subs will have wet dreams after that that length of time, and milkings are preferred by some Mistresses as they are thought to be less pleasurable and/or because they give the Mistress control over the release.

Removing stimulation just as you hit the point of no return, where there is often a sense of loss or emptiness, is called a ruined orgasm. I personally don't support them. On the other hand, I love making a boy edge for my pleasure. In edging, he stops just before the point of no return and therefore stays frustrated and on edge. It helps build his energy and desire without releasing it.

I personally do believe that subs should have orgasms - not just for prostate health, but for over all good heath - mental, physical and energetic. That is why the body sometimes takes over and gives them wet dreams. I don't believe that being in chastity so long that you become too complacent and completely lose your desire is healthy.

A short version of my philosophy:
Energetically speaking, men lose energy when they have orgasms, but women gain energy. Orgasms are a gift to be enjoyed, but men tend to be extremely frivolous with their sexual energy. The reason they get turned on so easily is that they are designed to ready for Her whenever She is ready. But they often take matters into their own hands (literally), wasting tons of both time and energy, and making something that is supposed to be special, something very mundane instead. And then they don't have the time and energy left to honor and serve the women in their lives as they should. Therefore, they need to be taught to have more self control, and to only cum for the pleasure and/or service of a woman.

Likewise, the semen and associated fluids contain energy. If it is not to be used for a female's pleasure, then it is best consumed by the male so that he suffers less of a loss of energy.

karent_50 said:
I totally agree. I think the actual definition as it relates to chastity refers to prostate massge to
express semen, but I too am guilty of using it to mean defferent things. When asked, I say my sissy is
only milked, which I mean is not allowed a pleasurable orgasm, but is done via massage, slow tease and
denial, or ruined orgasms.

You are correct Brenda. My sissy had told me that removing stimulation just before they start to
ejaculate is very frustrating and provides no pleasure at all as the semen oozes out. In fact sissy
says it is even worse than not being teased at all. Took some practice to learn to read the signals
and know when to slow down or stop, but now I never miss, much to my sissy's disappointment and
continued frustration.
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I've heard that Aneros are easiest for massaging yourself.

How to Use a Prostate Massager by Lovehoney

Lovehoney has a good selection of prostate toys, including Aneros and others. They have free shipping and free returns. The UK store is highly recommended. The US store is new and still getting up to speed in some areas.
UK: http://bit.ly/UWFxGM
US: http://shrsl.com/?~2zkn

I also recommend Stockroom.com, especially if you're in the US. They also have a good selection of massagers here:
http://stockroom.com/Prostate-Massagers-C628.aspx?ref=6441809
Including some Aneros - this page also has info on selecting and using an Aneros massager:
http://stockroom.com/Aneros-Prostate-Massagers-P1828.aspx?ref=6441809

And there's more info here: http://www.aneros.com/learning-center/

I've heard great things about the njoy wands as well - they might be the metal wands that someone mentioned above. Stockroom has a couple of their plugs (and the 2.0 is on sale there right now), but I didn't see any wands:
https://shop.njoytoys.com/products

Speaking of wands, there are also Lucite prostate massage wands that are used for Tantric work:
http://www.tantraattahoe.com/product/crystalwand.htm
I have the original one, but find it very awkward to use alone (for g-spot work.)
Most of the basic wands can be used for both p-spot and g-spot massage because they both use the same angle. The basic wand has the same angle on each end, but one tip is more rounded and one is more pointed. I generally think they are better when some else is using them on you.

There is also a Tantric way to massage the p-spot without insertion by massaging a specific spot on the perineum, but I don't know that it would be direct enough for milking. I've never seen it used that way. The Aneros line are generally designed to massage the prostrate from BOTH directions (anal insertion and perineum) in a hands-free way.

Fair disclosure: I'm a Stockroom and Lovehoney affiliate. Of the many sex toy and kink stores out there, I selected them because I believe in them enough to personally recommend them on my blogs, etc. I'd appreciate if you'd use my affiliate links above as the pricing isn't any higher and I get the credit for referring you. Thanks!

I hope this helps,

M
 
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I never experianced milking, but I also never had a wet dream. I have been chaste for 6 month one with permanent teasing and edging, but my body just seems to be made for chastity ;) no blue balls, no pain, no wet dreams. I just suffer from the frustration and denial. I dont loose my sexdrive or get really frustrated about it, I just get more and more horny. After that 6 month I was ready to go on forever.

but I think every body is different. Some might need milkings or wet dreams, others might loose their sexdrive with chastity.
I hate to not cum, but I have to admit that I could go on forever and would never loose a drop of sperm, and would just get more and more energy and lust.

I loved to read your comments Mistress Magick :) specially your philosophy. I think it is very true. The more I'm chaste, the more energy I get and the more I focus on my mistress. And she gets more energy from a lot of orgasms. If I would cum just once, all the energy would be gone. I could be chaste for 6 month and build up sooo much energy, but one squirt, even a ruined one, would be enough to destroy all of it in one second.

I like ruined orgasms, they are so mean and cruel. But I dont count them as milking. It IS an orgasm. A really bad one, but it is a release. I like a ruined orgasm to happen after long denial, just to let a bit of energy back in the body. I feel more submissive after a ruined orgasm then after a normal one. But But the only real way to build up lust and energy is with edging, a lot of it, and never going over the edge.
Ooh I can tell you, after that 6 month, I have edged myself for about 1000 hours, I really had to force myself to orgasm. my body just wasnt used to cum anymore, it lifed for edging and building up power :) I was kind of sad after it, because all the hornyness and lust has been gone forever.

I only like to cum for a womans pleasure. I dont like ruined orgasms or milking between that. And to be honest, I like to be with woman who get absolutly no pleasure from male orgasms :D Risky isnt it ;)
 
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ive tried milking my slave, but honestly, its more trouble then its worth. as his balls get to full, he will dribble some of his worthless seed out. if i use a strap on, or he is used by someone else, hehe, he does get some release that way. i guess im cruel, but i just love seeing a nice big blue ball sac! plus easier to torture. lol
 
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Mistress linda and slave said:
ive tried milking my slave, but honestly, its more trouble then its worth. as his balls get to full, he will dribble some of his worthless seed out. if i use a strap on, or he is used by someone else, hehe, he does get some release that way. i guess im cruel, but i just love seeing a nice big blue ball sac! plus easier to torture. lol
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Mmmmm sounds hot. I've been working with my gf on not worrying about bbeing mean n cruel. That that's what I like n crave.
 
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