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It's fascinating how two people connect and I really appreciate you sharing intimate, vulnerable thoughts. Desires, expectations, uncharted waters after many years. Did you share an emotional connection over the failed attempt at penetration? It seems like she moved on from the moment? How did you feel besides frustrated? Do you two use toys like vibrators or insertables to help things along? Outside of the bedroom, is the emotional or romantic bond/boning different? Sorry so many questions - your story is interesting because of the unconventional attempts to keep connecitng in a world where that isn't easy.
 
Did you share an emotional connection over the failed attempt at penetration? It seems like she moved on from the moment? How did you feel besides frustrated?
Not really, no. Neither of us enjoyed it, and I was relieved for it to be over with.
We don't use toys or anything like that. I tried to introduce the idea of a vibrator many years ago when we were still using cages. She has always preferred my fingers over anything else, but sometimes it took a long time to satisfy her and I would get bored. So I thought maybe trying a vibrator could help. She didn't like that idea one bit.
Outside the bedroom, I think we're probably similar to any other couple with half a dozen kids. Busy, stressed out, and tired, with few opportunities for romantic connection. We work together to keep the housework under control, I work long hours to make all the money, and every once in a while the planets and stars align just right and we have a night when we have a little time and both have some energy left and we engage in intimate activities.
 
Not really, no. Neither of us enjoyed it, and I was relieved for it to be over with.
We don't use toys or anything like that. I tried to introduce the idea of a vibrator many years ago when we were still using cages. She has always preferred my fingers over anything else, but sometimes it took a long time to satisfy her and I would get bored. So I thought maybe trying a vibrator could help. She didn't like that idea one bit.
Outside the bedroom, I think we're probably similar to any other couple with half a dozen kids. Busy, stressed out, and tired, with few opportunities for romantic connection. We work together to keep the housework under control, I work long hours to make all the money, and every once in a while the planets and stars align just right and we have a night when we have a little time and both have some energy left and we engage in intimate activities.

I don't identify as trans, but we've had unconventional parts of our lives from the beginning, which was a very long time ago. She was dating both a guy, and a married woman when we met, which drew me to her. In the last few years, she sometimes seems more relaxed and welcoming when I'm "dressed" in some fashion. She says it is because I'm more relaxed, which may be true, but it seems like part of it, or it breaks some kind of anxiety between us. Life can be confusing, because she doesn't identify as a lesbian, but some her most enjoyable sex has been with women, and the best sex we had in the last year, was after a night out fully dressed up - went out to dinner at a very friendly LGBT place. We've needed different things at different points in our long relationship. 20 years ago, I would have thought of dressing as only a private kink, but now it is in all kinds of gray areas and overlaps with vanilla life a lot more.

She enjoys vibrators for sure to climax, and maybe they allow her to focus. On me, a vibrator makes it very easy to add, and then suddenly take away stimulation, and even when I climax, it is somewhat ruined, because it involves none of the traditional grinding or stroking.

Trying to maintain intimacy when life is in the way is very hard. She seems more committed to doing it in non-sexual ways lately.
 
I haven't written on here in quite some time, and upon reviewing it realized that I had actually forgotten about my most recent orgasm. It definitely wasn't memorable, that's for sure. Maybe it counts as a ruined orgasm? I don't know.

Anyway, I'm writing here mostly for my own sake; to vent and get out some frustration. My wife has been wanting sex more often lately, and I am feeling super frustrated. I thought it had slightly over a year since my last orgasm, but counting the one in September I guess it has been about 10 months. In any case, it feels like forever, and every time she has one I experience some jealousy.

I'm at a point where I am feeling pretty desperate. I want an orgasm badly, and she definitely doesn't want to make that happen. Last time, she let me rub against her thigh a little bit, but only for like 10 seconds. I'm not sure if I even could have reached orgasm that way, but 10 seconds was definitely not enough stimulation to do much except make me feel more desperate.

Anyway, if you decided to read all of this, thanks for reading.
 
Sorry you're so frustrated. Many of us are too. 10 months is a very long time.

I think you said you don't wear a cage anymore, right? can you masturbate or milk yourself?
 
I haven't written on here in quite some time, and upon reviewing it realized that I had actually forgotten about my most recent orgasm. It definitely wasn't memorable, that's for sure. Maybe it counts as a ruined orgasm? I don't know.

Anyway, I'm writing here mostly for my own sake; to vent and get out some frustration. My wife has been wanting sex more often lately, and I am feeling super frustrated. I thought it had slightly over a year since my last orgasm, but counting the one in September I guess it has been about 10 months. In any case, it feels like forever, and every time she has one I experience some jealousy.

I'm at a point where I am feeling pretty desperate. I want an orgasm badly, and she definitely doesn't want to make that happen. Last time, she let me rub against her thigh a little bit, but only for like 10 seconds. I'm not sure if I even could have reached orgasm that way, but 10 seconds was definitely not enough stimulation to do much except make me feel more desperate.

Anyway, if you decided to read all of this, thanks for reading.

I'll be honest. I'm finding your whole scenario extremely hot. You are in a position where you are totally incapable of giving yourself an orgasm and are totally dependant on her to give you one, and she has learned to push your buttons and keep you on the edge with tease and denial, and has totally taken control of the sexual dynamic. I would relish being in your situation, hands down. I would love to keep reading about how this continues to escalate.

However, this isn't about me, it's about you and you sound unhappy with the current situation. You need to talk to her and have a sincere conversation about your needs or I imagine the resentment will brew and you will separate again. Explain that you are really happy to see that she's so active in the relationship but your needs aren't being met. Maybe come up with some plan for her to at least give you an orgasm once in a while. You need to be content and happy whatever that looks like for you.

I wonder if it's possible that she thinks you are actually happy with the current situation based on your previous chastity dynamic, and this id what you actually want?
 
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It's been over a year now since my last orgasm, and I think around a year and a half since the last time I remember having a memorable orgasm that felt good and strong.

We just recently celebrated our 16th anniversary, and I guess it's as good a time as any to write about how things have been.

A few months ago, a shortage of the hormone medication I normally take started, and I had to be switched to a different formulation. Even though the amount of estrogen in the substitute formulation is the same, the dosage is different and so is the half life. I don't really understand the chemistry behind it all, but for some reason the switch had a massive impact on my libido. I haven't had much of a libido since I transitioned, but for the last four years or so the little bit of libido that I did have was pretty consistent and predictable. But with this switch, my libido just completely vanished like a fart in the wind. I went close to three months feeling sexually numb. I never felt like doing anything intimate. Not even cuddling.

It was a weird experience. I wouldn't say I felt distressed about it or anything, but I noticed the absence of those feelings, and so did my wife. She also has never been a high libido person, but over the last year she had come to enjoy sexually intimate activity with me and she was voicing a little concern about how I had stopped responding to her attempts to initiate. I explained how I felt different sexually with the hormone switch, and how it was just kind of like that part of my brain was asleep or something.

Eventually, her comments and questions changed tone from concern to a little bit of frustration and maybe a little bit desperate. Apparently she had been feeling pretty horny lately, and was sexually frustrated because she would try to get me in the mood and I just didn't respond. So, the night before our anniversary, when she tried once again to initiate, I made an effort to give her what she needs even if I wasn't feeling amorous.

And I guess that's what I had been needing to do, because after about ten minutes of fooling around with each other, I actually started to feel aroused. After a little more time, I was really enjoying playing around with each other and feeling really aroused like I used to before the medication switch.

As usual, I got her to climax and once she had calmed down, she had some pillow talk with me. We discussed how our sex lives and expectations about sex had changed over the last 16 years. She talked about how much she hated sex during the early years of our marriage, and how she felt like our current arrangement was more natural and how we should have started from the beginning. I mentioned that I miss having orgasms and that sometimes I feel some jealousy when she has one. She gave me a slow, firm kiss and said that she could tell. She said that she feels a lot more sexually connected with me when she has an orgasm and she can feel how strongly I want one, too, and I still pleasure her even though I can't have one. It makes her feel loved and appreciated.

She also mentioned that she thought it was kind of cute and romantic that I'm not able to have orgasms after she went through so many years of pleasureless sex. She didn't seem vindictive or malicious, more like she was trying to comfort me and let me know that she understood how I feel.

We cuddled for a while and eventually fell asleep. Surprisingly, I feel more receptive to intimacy. I wouldn't say that my libido is back to normal, but emotionally I feel more positive and enthusiastic about it.
 
It's been over a year now since my last orgasm, and I think around a year and a half since the last time I remember having a memorable orgasm that felt good and strong.

We just recently celebrated our 16th anniversary, and I guess it's as good a time as any to write about how things have been.

A few months ago, a shortage of the hormone medication I normally take started, and I had to be switched to a different formulation. Even though the amount of estrogen in the substitute formulation is the same, the dosage is different and so is the half life. I don't really understand the chemistry behind it all, but for some reason the switch had a massive impact on my libido. I haven't had much of a libido since I transitioned, but for the last four years or so the little bit of libido that I did have was pretty consistent and predictable. But with this switch, my libido just completely vanished like a fart in the wind. I went close to three months feeling sexually numb. I never felt like doing anything intimate. Not even cuddling.

It was a weird experience. I wouldn't say I felt distressed about it or anything, but I noticed the absence of those feelings, and so did my wife. She also has never been a high libido person, but over the last year she had come to enjoy sexually intimate activity with me and she was voicing a little concern about how I had stopped responding to her attempts to initiate. I explained how I felt different sexually with the hormone switch, and how it was just kind of like that part of my brain was asleep or something.

Eventually, her comments and questions changed tone from concern to a little bit of frustration and maybe a little bit desperate. Apparently she had been feeling pretty horny lately, and was sexually frustrated because she would try to get me in the mood and I just didn't respond. So, the night before our anniversary, when she tried once again to initiate, I made an effort to give her what she needs even if I wasn't feeling amorous.

And I guess that's what I had been needing to do, because after about ten minutes of fooling around with each other, I actually started to feel aroused. After a little more time, I was really enjoying playing around with each other and feeling really aroused like I used to before the medication switch.

As usual, I got her to climax and once she had calmed down, she had some pillow talk with me. We discussed how our sex lives and expectations about sex had changed over the last 16 years. She talked about how much she hated sex during the early years of our marriage, and how she felt like our current arrangement was more natural and how we should have started from the beginning. I mentioned that I miss having orgasms and that sometimes I feel some jealousy when she has one. She gave me a slow, firm kiss and said that she could tell. She said that she feels a lot more sexually connected with me when she has an orgasm and she can feel how strongly I want one, too, and I still pleasure her even though I can't have one. It makes her feel loved and appreciated.

She also mentioned that she thought it was kind of cute and romantic that I'm not able to have orgasms after she went through so many years of pleasureless sex. She didn't seem vindictive or malicious, more like she was trying to comfort me and let me know that she understood how I feel.

We cuddled for a while and eventually fell asleep. Surprisingly, I feel more receptive to intimacy. I wouldn't say that my libido is back to normal, but emotionally I feel more positive and enthusiastic about it.
Hi Sheperdsflock,

Reading your posts is always so interesting, and your voice always rings so true. I am often struck by your eloquence, and I feel that you really should tell your story to a larger audience because your struggle for identity, connection, love and intimacy is both unique and universal and you explain it so well.

Regarding your sexuality, women are often said to have a 'reactive' libido and that sounds exactly like what you are experiencing.

In any case, you are courageous and honest, and I hope that you continue to tell us your story, and hope that you consider telling it more widely as it is intimate and unique, but also universal.

Bon chance!
 
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Regarding your sexuality, women are often said to have a 'reactive' libido and that sounds exactly like what you are experiencing.
I would have said that my libido before the medication switch was reactive. I never had the urge to initiate, but every week or two, if my wife was feeling frisky and started touching me and stuff, I was happy to engage. I even looked forward to it most of the time. But since the medication switch, there were several times that she tried to initiate and I really just felt like I'd rather do almost anything else than engage in sexual intimacy. And feeling like that for months at a time was weird. And I could tell it very frustrating for her, and it made me feel kind of guilty. I wasn't being sexually absent on purpose, and it made me feel kind of bad because I could tell there were times she really wanted and maybe needed that kind of connection and there was just nothing happening in me. No response.
 
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Though what you describe pre-medication-change does sound like "responsive desire" rather than "spontaneous", your description of the recent experience sounds like it's even further in that direction: no interest at first, but as you engaged, desire emerged.

Emily Nagoski's book Come as You Are gives a lot of space to the science of responsive (vs. spontaneous) desire, and even more to constructive behaviors to improve your sex life if your desire is primarily responsive. For example, one thing that has worked really well for my wife and me is scheduling regular sex (for us, every Sunday morning -- we also sometimes engage in less-planned sex at other times, but we *always* have a long "date" on Sunday mornings except for the rare time when it's not possible due to some commitment with others). We have a fairly long ritual, starting with me showering and shaving (her preference), and making her breakfast in bed, and giving her a footrub, all before there's any more explicitly sexual activity. Just one type of strategy. You might find Nagoski's book helpful.
 
Though what you describe pre-medication-change does sound like "responsive desire" rather than "spontaneous", your description of the recent experience sounds like it's even further in that direction: no interest at first, but as you engaged, desire emerged.
I think what I didn't communicate well is that for a few months, nothing emerged when she would try to initiate. A couple of times I really tried my best to "get in the mood", but it was like some switch in my brain or in my body, or maybe both, was switched off. I couldn't get my mind or body into any kind of erotic territory no matter how badly I wanted to make her happy.
 
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