Beginner questions please - device pushing forward a lot

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Hello everyone,

I am new to the forum, joining to ask for a bit of advice please.

My girlfriend and I have just started experimenting with chastity, with a view to incorporating it into other forms of play and on a pretty regular basis. She would like me to be wearing a cage all of the time while at home.

She did my measurements and bought me a Holy Trainer V4 clear cage. The size is small (45mm length past ring, 70mm total tube length) and I am using the 36mm (smallest) ring. After a bit of practice I can get the cage on reasonably easily if I focus on staying flaccid and use a bit of lube. I have worn it all day now for the past few days without any issues or discomfort, going about my daily life etc. I can get a finger in between ring and skin so I do not think the ring is too tight. We have not tried nighttime wear and are not intending to do so.

While the cage sits close to my body normally and is comfortable (although lots to get used to the feel of it!) our problem comes when she wants to tease me or I get aroused at all. While small when flaccid (thus small size and tube size) when erect I am probably 7 inches. Once I start to get aroused the erection forms at the base of the penis and pushes the cage forward in a painful fashion, putting pressure on the balls. There is effectively a bulge/lump pushing the cage 3 inches or so away from the body. After 10-15 minutes like this it is unbearable and we have to stop playing and take the cage off for safety. Is there any way to address this? A different cage? Shorter tube size (arguably flaccid penis could handle a shorter one)? Smaller ring size (we are using the smallest but perhaps another cage with smaller?)? Or any form of underwear holding it in place? Basically looking to understand how she can play/tease me without causing this pain and discomfort from the cage.

Many thanks for any advice!
 
My wife doesn't tease me in the cage (yet?), and I'm trying to get the dynamic running, so I concentrated on asking other questions here on CM first.

But I do have the same issue with my HTv5 clone. Can somehow stand my nocturnal erections, which start massively (and are different from conscious ones) from the shaft base and push the cage forward. Getting up and go peeing works, but breaks the sleep. So I still need to really solve this - can't stay like this ...
 
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Well, I guess the cage works as designed! It should stop you from getting an erection. That is the theory, at least.

I am new to chastity - have a Holytrainer as well, by the way - and I have the same issue. So you are not alone.

I would start with Tease&Deny outside of the cage as @RonaldT wrote. Get used to the cage (and sleeping with it on), then you can work out what is possible while caged and what requires a release.
 
Sadly (or joyfully), that's sort of the point. I love my cock being all swollen inside. This weekend my KH gave me a pubic massage whilst I was caged. I could feel my cock swollen in the cage AND swollen inside of my body.

Obviously, though.... no release.
 
Thanks for the replies...I do wonder though whether I need a slightly bigger ring as it really is painful and starts to feel like blood is being cut off. Or else need to get better at not getting so excited...
 
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Thanks for the replies...I do wonder though whether I need a slightly bigger ring as it really is painful and starts to feel like blood is being cut off. Or else need to get better at not getting so excited...
I'm on 45mm ring size, started with 50, and then also tried 40, but that started to cut of blood or other flows. Feel into your body - that can't be right.

And restricting and calming your arousal ... well, for me that feels counterintuitive ... let alone during night, when my erections seem untamable.
 
I do wonder though whether I need a slightly bigger ring as it really is painful
Try wearing only the ring for a day and see if that is painful. I know the Holytrainer has some "claws" on the ring that dig into the penis, so I would get a set of simple cockrings in different sizes from your nearest adult store (or Amazon) and see which size fits best. It should be tight, but not painful.

You can stretch the Holytrainer ring slightly by putting it in boiling water for a few minutes - just keep the lock above water. Then it gets more rubbery and flexible, and you can stretch it slightly if there is just one or two spots that are too tight.
 
Hello everyone,

I am new to the forum, joining to ask for a bit of advice please.

My girlfriend and I have just started experimenting with chastity, with a view to incorporating it into other forms of play and on a pretty regular basis. She would like me to be wearing a cage all of the time while at home.

She did my measurements and bought me a Holy Trainer V4 clear cage. The size is small (45mm length past ring, 70mm total tube length) and I am using the 36mm (smallest) ring. After a bit of practice I can get the cage on reasonably easily if I focus on staying flaccid and use a bit of lube. I have worn it all day now for the past few days without any issues or discomfort, going about my daily life etc. I can get a finger in between ring and skin so I do not think the ring is too tight. We have not tried nighttime wear and are not intending to do so.

While the cage sits close to my body normally and is comfortable (although lots to get used to the feel of it!) our problem comes when she wants to tease me or I get aroused at all. While small when flaccid (thus small size and tube size) when erect I am probably 7 inches. Once I start to get aroused the erection forms at the base of the penis and pushes the cage forward in a painful fashion, putting pressure on the balls. There is effectively a bulge/lump pushing the cage 3 inches or so away from the body. After 10-15 minutes like this it is unbearable and we have to stop playing and take the cage off for safety. Is there any way to address this? A different cage? Shorter tube size (arguably flaccid penis could handle a shorter one)? Smaller ring size (we are using the smallest but perhaps another cage with smaller?)? Or any form of underwear holding it in place? Basically looking to understand how she can play/tease me without causing this pain and discomfort from the cage.

Many thanks for any advice!
Try a shorter cage. It should be slightly shorter than your flacid side.
 
Hello everyone,

I am new to the forum, joining to ask for a bit of advice please.

My girlfriend and I have just started experimenting with chastity, with a view to incorporating it into other forms of play and on a pretty regular basis. She would like me to be wearing a cage all of the time while at home.

She did my measurements and bought me a Holy Trainer V4 clear cage. The size is small (45mm length past ring, 70mm total tube length) and I am using the 36mm (smallest) ring. After a bit of practice I can get the cage on reasonably easily if I focus on staying flaccid and use a bit of lube. I have worn it all day now for the past few days without any issues or discomfort, going about my daily life etc. I can get a finger in between ring and skin so I do not think the ring is too tight. We have not tried nighttime wear and are not intending to do so.

While the cage sits close to my body normally and is comfortable (although lots to get used to the feel of it!) our problem comes when she wants to tease me or I get aroused at all. While small when flaccid (thus small size and tube size) when erect I am probably 7 inches. Once I start to get aroused the erection forms at the base of the penis and pushes the cage forward in a painful fashion, putting pressure on the balls. There is effectively a bulge/lump pushing the cage 3 inches or so away from the body. After 10-15 minutes like this it is unbearable and we have to stop playing and take the cage off for safety. Is there any way to address this? A different cage? Shorter tube size (arguably flaccid penis could handle a shorter one)? Smaller ring size (we are using the smallest but perhaps another cage with smaller?)? Or any form of underwear holding it in place? Basically looking to understand how she can play/tease me without causing this pain and discomfort from the cage.

Many thanks for any advice!
This happens to me. I just get super hard and bulgy between my body and the cage, and the cage gets pushed out. I try a smaller ring to help but I get a bit too sore from it. I just think it’s my anatomy. I’m super high as tight and it just may be how things go
 
I've had the same issue. I find grasping the whole package and firmly pushing it back towards my body works. You have to maintain a continuous firm push for maybe a few minutes, then it works. Afterwards ease the balls through to remove remaining tension. I generally apply some lube at this point for good measure.
 
The Holy Trainer was my first successful device and I had exactly the same issue. I moved to a metal device after a year or so as I started having an allergic reaction to whatever the device is made out of. (Don't panic, I was wearing my trainer 24/7 and it doesn't happen to everyone.) The weird feeling of having an erection that goes from the base of your balls back towards your bum whilst seeing your penis is still small is one of the great mindfucks of chastity but you don't want the device cutting off blood. This is after all supposed to be fun.

I would also add the word 'yet' at the end of this sentence...

We have not tried nighttime wear and are not intending to do so.
 
Once I start to get aroused the erection forms at the base of the penis and pushes the cage forward in a painful fashion, putting pressure on the balls. There is effectively a bulge/lump pushing the cage 3 inches or so away from the body. After 10-15 minutes like this it is unbearable and we have to stop playing and take the cage off for safety. Is there any way to address this?

I think that is not an issue, but that is a feature, it is normal for Holy Trainer tube and ring, especially at first time.

Erections in Holy Trainer could be painful, but after some days your dick might be adopted to the cage and produce a new reflex, making flaccid while it comes to full volume of the tube.


That was for me with Holy Trainer v.2 small. With my sizes: flaccid btw 1.77 and 3.15 inches and 5.71 inches when erected.

Changing scrotal ring size does not solve this problem.

Where do you feel pain?