A shame you never thought to make a small donation to the site you have made thousands from.
How to attract more Keyholders to chastity/this site?
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A shame you never thought to make a small donation to the site you have made thousands from.
Combative to make suggestions and ideas and ask questions, its like your world is upside down.
I offered to help you, many, many, many times, countless ideas and suggestions.
I could donate to you myself yes but I feel that you have resented every effort I have made to approach you and taken it as an attack.
You were more interested in defending yourself from attacks that never existed than listening to my reasoned approach.
Yes I probably come across to you as too forwards or even arrogant, that is partly my fault as autistic people prefer to speak their mind and
tend to remove emotional attachment to discussion and debate, if you are not use to being around autistic people it can be taken too direct.
I could ask multiple people on this site to donate to you and they would.
I still believe in you, I would still wish to help you but you have to lower your shields.
lets take some time out and digest, come at this again another time.
I offered to help you, many, many, many times, countless ideas and suggestions.
I could donate to you myself yes but I feel that you have resented every effort I have made to approach you and taken it as an attack.
You were more interested in defending yourself from attacks that never existed than listening to my reasoned approach.
Yes I probably come across to you as too forwards or even arrogant, that is partly my fault as autistic people prefer to speak their mind and
tend to remove emotional attachment to discussion and debate, if you are not use to being around autistic people it can be taken too direct.
I could ask multiple people on this site to donate to you and they would.
I still believe in you, I would still wish to help you but you have to lower your shields.
lets take some time out and digest, come at this again another time.
It's the nasty way you brought them up. We have spoken in the past and you were never like that. Have you had a personality transplant?
Yep, that's the issue. Chastity is the one thing we know we have in common, and the one thing we know we'd have in common with the hypothetical new woman logging on to find out what this new fetish of her husband/boyfriend is all about. But chastity is, as Tom articulated years and years ago, mostly about nothing happening.
"Hey Bob, how you doing?"
"Great Fred. And you?"
"Good. Your KH unlock you today?"
"Nope!"
"Neither did mine!"
... pause ...
"Okay, well, see you tomorrow."
"See you tomorrow."
Aside from occasional discussions about a new device, or mechanical issues with something, there's not much titilating (so to speak) to discuss about Chastity.
So any sort of long term sexually arousing engagement from men is going to drift to the other kinks, where active stuff can happen on a regular basis while the cage stays locked. And men looking for a mechanical or practical discussion are likely doing that most often on a forum about building RC cars or model trains or backyard greenhosues or getting the perfect smoke ring on a brisket. This place is primarily a sexual interest forum. If the site itself stops being that, it will stop being period. So there will inevitably be discussions about all sorts of more-than-just-Chastity topics, many - or most - of which will be off-putting to Mrs Noob. In time she might grow to like some of it, but starting off?
Imagine a woman making her first foray into a sex shop to buy a vibrator. But the vibrators are all the way at the back and to get to them, she has to walk past live demonstrations of CBT, scat play, pegging, overweight guys in French Maid outfits with some woman screaming at them that they're worthless worms... I don't think she's going to make it to the vibrators.
I don't think there's a viable way to turn this site into a "Safe Space for Noob Keyholders." It is what it is, appreciate it for that. Trying to make it something else is like moving to the quaint, bucolic village for the wonderful small town vibe and saying "You know what this place needs? A Starbucks. And a Planet Fitness. Maybe we can get a Trader Joes..."
People are free to denounce as a "censor" anyone who fails to offer their soapbox to your cause.
You are free to ignore them, which is what I think you should do
Maybe a system where you cannot post any photos until you have earned enough points, and you can't see any photos until you have earned enough photos either - save the grot until much later in someone's membership.
I don't understand why we need a gallery, anyway.
If that is the way I have come across then I humbly apologize, I have no issues apologizing so I am very sorry for my approach.
Again though, I am not interested in attacking you personally, if it makes you happy then please continue to do so,
I still wish to support and assist you to make the site and chatroom a better place to visit for everyone.
Can you at least please provide some answers to my questions though:
Are you happy with the site the way it is?
Do you want any help and what kind of help would you like that is not financial?
If you would like to improve the financial support of the site, are you interested in a focus group to work with you on that?
Seconded!
I am glad you cleaned that up. It does make the site more welcoming to not be greeted by penises in one's face.
And I have no issues with nudity, as long as it's opt-in.
I always win
Please accept this as a personal message then: Thank you for your efforts here.
And to other moderators and volunteers: Thank you.
As L-u-c-y suggested: The gallery seems to drive a lot of traffic and engagement. I don't think having a gallery is a problem.
That new users can post any photo on any thread, and it's seen by anyone who opens that thread? That can be an issue. Especially since they may not know the rules of the site. So your idea of not allowing picture posts on new accounts has merit. An alternative is auto-blurring all photos from new accounts, and allowing readers to choose to unblur them at their own risk.
L-u-c-y has been very clear about no child photos, and that photos with nudity should be in one specific section. These are a good start. If posting a photo required some checkboxes to be checked (e.g. "this image contains no male genitalia", "this image contains no female genitalia", "this image is safe for work", etc.) then users could easily configure their own profile to heavily blur or hide all photos in categories that they do not wish to see, with the default being "don't see any of these". This is what's called an "opt in" approach. By making the checkboxes read "this image does NOT contain ...", it automatically hides things when people don't take the time to categorize their own pics correctly, putting the responsibility on the poster instead of the mod. And violations (checking boxes that should not be checked) can result in either account-level picture posting bans or simply assuming that no checkboxes are checked for pics posted by that account.
At any rate, all of these features take effort, time, testing, debugging, and possibly even hosting fees. So it's a good idea to help L-u-c-y with the bills. I have not done so yet, but I plan to. Here's the link: https://chastitymansion.com/forums/index.php?threads/chastity-mansion-voluntary-donations.61963/
Its for men in chastity not their keyholders so its going to be geared toward that. We eased into chastity and other kinks blossomed over time. Had we started with cage me, put me in bondage on top of my sleeping cage and beat me, we'd have never gotten off ground. So the store analogy is good.
I'm sorry but from my time here and some of your interactions I've experienced and witnessed. I don't see you being one they call in to talk someone off the ledge so to speak. Unless your professional demeanor is way different from here.
I would appreciate it if you do not take any more members off site for tributes.
It's against the site rules and we ban many every day for less.
The modern accepted framework in psychology for understanding personality is based on individual traits and not personality types.
Personality 'types' which is what you are referencing here is how you assign people into groups, how you can 'label' them.
We prefer to utilize a trait system where as the person is individualized through their traits, almost like you are placing them on
a spectrum based on the traits they have that others might also have, but how much of those traits are the primary or stronger traits
and which are the lesser or minor traits, that is how you can then begin to perceive why and how the person operates.
I am also not sure if you are aware of how identity shifts with context, how you operate with someone you do not know that you are sat
next to on the bus will be different to the friend you have known for 30 years. It is commonly but not professionally referred to as the
social identity theory, that you have different personalities for different contexts, when with a lover for example might be different to how
you interact with a work colleague.
Also you might want to read about the perception of reality, 'it is not what you look at, its what you can see that matters.' or more commonly
known in NLP circles as 'We do not see the world as it is but as we are.' both wonderful examples of the perception of reality.
I hope that helps.
As you are showing no interest in answering some basic questions I am going to assume the air has been
poisoned too much to remain in the room, thank you and lets be done.
poisoned too much to remain in the room, thank you and lets be done.
A good point.
I've rearanged the order of the forums so the first ones new members see will be the most female friendly.
Oh, that's awesome, I wasn't even thinking of the order of the forums when I wrote that. But now that you mention it, great idea. Though I'd suggest moving "Novices and Newbies" to the very top, and FLR down to maybe after the Female Keyholder's forum. Reason being, a novice probably first needs reassurance this "weird new kink" of her husband's is just a game to play and not something that will change their relationship. FLR is very much about change for most couples, so likely worth saving until she feels more comfortable and confident that she can control any change.
The thing about looking at this website on your phone, is that immediately brings the dicpics right to the front of the site and very easy to click on and get a face full of dick. It's not an attractive look at all. Page 90% full. I'm not saying we have to get rid of these pictures. We're probably providing a service, at least 'they' aren't out on the streets exposing themselves to real women, hopefully! Because that's what this boils down to. It's an exposing yourself kink. And to my view, that doesn't have anything to do with chastity. That's why it is a mysogonistic act. It's about you. The man, exposing himself, and getting some kind of self-gratification as a result. Rant over
I suggest that in the NEW POST section, the NEW MEDIA and NEW MEDIA COMMENTS links be removed.
@L-u-c-y I believe this is the only way to push the gallery into the background, and would make a real difference. Thank you for your time.
I suggest that in the NEW POST section, the NEW MEDIA and NEW MEDIA COMMENTS links be removed.
@L-u-c-y I believe this is the only way to push the gallery into the background, and would make a real difference. Thank you for your time.
There are a lot of people watching (and on) this thread. It's an important one. A suggestion as it relates to the chat room: it would spark deeper and more lively conversations in chat if those that were reading this would drop in and give the room a chance. I am going to try and make it more topic-oriented and having others there to spur discussions would be welcomed help. Your presence is requested!
Not sure if it was quite the demographic you were looking for, but the room was on fire yesterday after your interventions. Go Alexandra!