Struggling with getting him to submit. Advice from keyholders or subs?

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    Get a strap on and fuck the shit out of him.. don't hurt him tho

    Read how to do anal sex right.. make sure you keep him locked long before and after you peg him
     
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    Here is my suggestion. Ask him to submit a list of rules. Pick from his list and then enforce them. There's nothing wrong letting the sub make suggestions and then you holding him to his word.
     
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    Maybe try out the following steps. Have you experience with roleplay? If so, very well, if not, give it a try.

    Ask for a preferred roleplay setting (since watching porn is part of his fantasy building I'm almost sure they exist), maybe suggest a list of possibilites.

    If he picks one or some, you have a frame or more of proven mindsets that get him evidently started. Inside that frame/mindset, direct the regarding types, outfits, actions and other details along your line of thought. Going this way you consider his fantasies and expectations as well as you are able to introduce your own characteristics.

    If he's sticking too close to his porn references to allow alterations with your own ideas, then he obviously just wants to reenact some porn with you. (I'm not judging, this may even turn out perfect ok for you, so you might want to try it out and maybe it will work.) The key is identifying expectations and negotiate the possibilites to fulfil them satisfyingly for everyone involved.

    Qapla’!
    cw
     
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    Have you seen any increase in his submissiveness when lockup periods are increased? How long is he usually locked for? Perhaps a lengthier time is warranted in this situation.
     
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    Dump him. Take him back when he's learnt his lesson.
     
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    That is a probably the worst idea I have seen since being on this site.
     
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    I'm not going to dump someone ive been with for 5 years over something we have both just started and are trying to understand. Good greif LOL
     
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    I've seen this said a lot, but it's only true if the Dom needs the sub as much as the sub needs the Dom.
    You're so predictable.

    He's playing games, fucking her around, wanting a porn fantasy to come true, selfishly topping from the bottom, he's been addicted to porn and camshows. She's doing what he wants and he's still complaining.
     
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    Why have you allowed him to view porn and camshows? I would be offended if I was seeing someone and they were doing that.
     
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    Tell him he either plays by your rules or you don't play at all.
     
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    Well said richard.
     
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    Just stating the obveous. It's a stupid suggestion,
    to tell someone to leave their relationship becuase they are learning how to live a chaste life.
     
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    TE="Princess_alyssa192, post: 187603, member: 46933"]I'm not going to dump someone ive been with for 5 years over something we have both just started and are trying to understand. Good greif LOL[/QUOTE]
    Princess, you are both learning right now and it will take time to ease both of you into this. The one most important thing is that you have him locked and he needs to go at your pace. If you are curious about bondage that could help too as it's an excellent way to both teasing and as a punishment.
     
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    I didn't know he was viewing it, he kept it a secret and this new part of our relationship came about because of it. Only recently I found out that he was still doing it without my knowledge even while locked up. It's an issue he has and we are dealing with it now
     
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    Dump him.
     
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    Can I get some of those drugs you're on?

    If every woman dumped her guy for watching porn, everyone would be alone.
    Except for pornstars.
    I think your perception of real life is so, so, so out of whack. But let's get this thread back to what it was about (not you).

    I agree with the ultimatum. He has to play by your rules, not his fantasy.
    Good luck!
     
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    If he is dumped then he will beg for another chance, then he will play by the rules. He will realise he can't carry on being a prick.
     
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    Pretty sure Alyssa isn't in highschool, but thanks for coming out.
     
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    I must be the only person who thinks his behaviour is completely out of order.
     
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    Nicoftime The suspense is terrible...I hope it lasts

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    Oh yes, it's perfectly reasonable to dump someone you love because they are topping from the bottom. My brother was being a jerk recently, I'm never speaking to him again.
     
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    I said a temporary dumping until he sees the error of his ways, not never speaking to him again.
     
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    Nicoftime The suspense is terrible...I hope it lasts

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    Helpful relationship advice, in homeroom I will pass him a note saying they aren't broken up anymore...good talk
     
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    Yes it does sound about the right age range, addicted to porn whole in a relationship.
     
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    If you had read the rest of the thread you would see that everyone thinks his behaviour is unexceptable. Everyone has made perfectly good suggestions... except maybe the getting a strap on and fucking him I also don't think dumping him will fix anything either? I think she will figure it out on her own and find her Dom self the same way all us women are.
    As a women Who has decided to make this lifestyle change I didn not expect it to change over night.
    That's why we train them.
    That's why. We make punishments. So if he chooses to step over the line he has to learn.

    These men are not children and know how to choose right from wrong.
    We just have to help rewire their brains for them.
    These men have had porn at their fingertips since they were 10 years old.
    Befor the internet there was magazines, movies, peep shows.
    It was just harder to get.
    Now they sit around and have it like magic.
    You can't blame them for taking advantage of it if this is the way they grew up.
    The best part about becoming his Dom is doing what feeds your soul. If you see a change continue on that path.
    And always keep an open line of communication.
    Just becuase a man thinks it should go one way and wants to to voice his opinion doesn't mean you have to follow.
    When he decides he needs to try to correct you. Use that moment to tell him you hear his concern and that is not the way it's going to work. Sometimes that's all it takes.
     
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