Mismatched libido - Spontaneous vs Responsive

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    I've read some blogs and journeys where posters turned to chastity because their libido was much higher than their spouse/partner.

    Sheila Wray Gregoire in her book "The Great Sex Rescue" recognizes the differences and difficulties that can exist when one partner has a higher libido. But she also describes a difference in libido types:

    "Some people have a felt need for sex that leaves them feeling physically frustrated if they don’t have sex. That’s what we call spontaneous libido. But some people have more of a responsive libido. Once they begin making love, arousal kicks in."

    This really resonated with me because I'm definitely the spontaneous type and my wife is the responsive type. Left to go based on how she feels, we would have sex very rarely. But after engaging in foreplay when she feels emotionally loved and connected, she wants an orgasm frequently; far more often than she ever imagined she would just a few months ago.

    How about you? Have you noticed this dynamic in your relationship?
     
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    I can say this sounds like our relationship. I'm ready anywhere anytime with the slightest sight, smell, thought or just a breeze. My wife, not so much. I got tired of trying to initiate that I stopped and we entered a dead bedroom for almost 3 years. (had sex maybe 3 times, and I mean anything together at all). Faced with either splitting up or working on it myself I changed my viewpoint to act as if she was my sun. Within a few weeks of me focusing all of my energy on her she was touching me randomly (something that would give me a shock before), kissing me and acting close. Before you know it we were trying to plan out when we could have sex (3 kids and a massive dog who hates when someone in the house touches someone else- ugh). But I have learned she doesn't think about sex or sensual things (and I don't believe she's hiding it). I have to prime the pump. Every night I spend a half hour massaging her feet and during the day I randomly give her a 5-10 min shoulder massage, maybe with a few kisses on the neck and shoulder. Before you know it when I ask if we can have some fun tonight she smiles and says maybe.

    This doesn't make for a chastity lifestyle so I'm taking it slow and self locking with her knowing (and not getting it yet). But she is happy with the other changes and I have realized moving at a glacier pace is safer than trying to push her. If I know my wife after 23 years I think she will eventually enjoy taking over, it just has to be on her terms...
     
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    My loving wife doesn't desire or crave physical intimacy as I do, but she predominately needs the intimacy through the non-sexual acts described in this post I made earlier...

    https://www.chastitymansion.com/forums/index.php?threads/non-sexual-activities-in-a-flr.46844/

    For us, chastity has been a way to extend that intimacy from one day to the next without being an awkward experience, a hassle, or a bother to my wife. I enjoy pleasing her in this way every day as much as she enjoys receiving it & she enjoys giving me some physical attention daily. I am 100% satisfied with the attention she decides to me daily for many reasons.

    • She decides what is too much and too little for her time & energy.
    • She can always bring me to a full state of arousal where I feel like I need to please her more.
    • The orgasms are rare, but the time with her is significantly better than if I were to do whatever I wanted to myself without her.
    • It genuinely feels like she is in total control. I know that is something I love, but pacing the way she wants it is the best thing we have ever done to help our intimacy.
    I kind of feel stupid that if I didn't wear this chastity device I would mindlessly need to masturbate daily & ruin the dynamic we have going... but that is why we agree it needs to be on when she is not around.
     
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    My libido is at least 10x higher than my wife's. I don't think that I can answer the question exactly, but ... maybe I can share what I've noticed that kind of falls in the same area: My wife gets a lot more horny, a lot more often now. Especially as we get more and more into this little game of ours. The stress of being my personal cum dumpster for the first years of our marriage probably ruined sexual pleasure for her. Sure, she would still cum (maybe half of the time) from PIV, but sex was a chore for her, and not really something that she was choosing. Now, it's completely her choice, on her schedule, however she wants it, with zero pressure. The complete lack of pressure seems to have unlocked a vixen. I'm OK with that, even if I'm personally getting less than ever. Actually, I'm way better than OK with it:. I've never been more content with my own sex life.
     
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    I think im with dr sheila.. im horny most of the time.. i think about sex every 30mins.. i dont need any intentional stimulation.. if there is it will be added bonus which i wont resist. My wife on the other hand lies on the bed like a dead fish waiting to be aroused but once she is in the mood.. i cant cope.. such a mismatched libido!
     
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    This is us exactly. My wife requires pretty much a full day of "preliminary" foreplay (compliments, nice gestures, etc., culminating in at least twenty minutes of gentle stroking once we are in bed) before she gets aroused enough to enjoy what most people call foreplay.
     
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    This difference in libido explains a lot!
    Seems my lady and I both have responsive libidos. Unfortunately, this means if neither of us starts the action, nothing will happen. A trap that comfort can get you into very quickly.

    Without knowing this connection, it has become established for us that solid events are an impetus to do sexual things and start the fire. These can be fixed rules, appointments or simply sexualized household chores.
    Anyway it works and now I know why. :)
     
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    When i made this original post, i could see from our experience that this was true for us but I didn't fully understand it. I still don't fully understand but the truth of it is becoming clearer to me.

    I'm spontaneous. When my wife touches and teases me, my motor starts purring immediately and I start swelling in my cage. Precum starts dribbling out within minutes under continuous teasing. Once I reach the "desperate for an orgasm" state, i will remain in that state with limited physical stimulation when engaged in foreplay and stimulation of her genitals. Her orgasm triggers an emotional climax in me as some of my pent up sexual tension is released.

    My wife is responsive. Touch and teasing has little effect on her. She enjoys it to some degree but not enough to get adequately aroused to lead to an orgasm. She needs mental, emotional stimulation. She usually gets that from foreplay and physical stimulation of me, usually to my ears, underarms, nipples and scrotum and not direct stimulation of my penis since that will trigger an orgasm pretty quickly. Keeping me caged is best. She gets me moaning, twitching uncontrollably, and writhing. This always gets her aroused and very wet downstairs. 9 times out of ten she's ready for direct stimulation of her genitals which leads to her orgasm within 5-10 minutes.

    One thing I have also noticed is that stress as nd other emotional factors can interfere with her responsiveness and put the brakes on her arousal pretty easily and no amount of physical stimulation will bring her to orgasm . On the other hand, it takes a lot to suppress my spontaneous libido. Once aroused, orgasm is inevitable and unstoppable if you start playing with my little guy.

    I still don't totally understand how her responsive libido works but I recognize what's happening. This became very noticeable this weekend from a negative situation that occurred between us. She decided she wanted to initiate physical intimacy by giving me a "whole body massage" one evening. She got the bedroom set up and when I came in, I asked if I could rub foot cream on her feet first because we had missed a couple of days. While I was doing that, she proceeded to tick off a list of things she'd asked me to do around the house which I hadn't gotten to yet. I was feeling even smaller than my caged, shriveled little guy and had to walk out of the room ostensibly to get a cup of water so I could compose myself before I said something negative. My mood was bad.

    She asked me to lay on my stomach so she could massage my lower back because it was sore and she knew it. She started asking if I wanted "this or that" but her tone of voice was one of frustration. The back rub wasn't feeling that great and my mood was getting worse. She wasn't getting any positive audible or physical reaction from me which was not helping her attitude. When I expressed no interest in further areas of massage, she got really angry and said "I guess we're done then and you re not interested in sex" whicvh was a true statement. I showered and she went to bed and didn't speak to me unhtil later the next morning when we finally discussed what happened and resolved things.

    I don't know if we would have had sex if she hadn't expressed her frustration about the unfinished chores, but one thing was clear to her. I wasn't responding to her physical touch and her questions / suggestions in a way that demonstrated my arousal and that was like pouring a bucket of ice water on her libido.

    At any rate, chadtity, tease and denial really stokes her fire as long as she is feeling loved emotionally. And I'm pretty good at keeping her feeling loved most of the time because of the cage and her T&D of me. As a result, we've been more physically intimate in the last 16 months than we were in the last 2-3 decades, probably longer. Understanding how her libido works makes a huge difference.
     
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    I hit the "Post Reply" button on my previous post as I was lying in bed just as my wife's alarm was going off this morning. Then this happened. She had quite possibly the quickest orgasm she's ever had from the time I started physical stimulation of her clitoris. She may be even more responsive to inflicting physical pain on me because it produces a stronger audible & physical reaction. Whatever the case, our insights into our libidos is expanding.
     
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    Interesting read and oh so relatable. We are in the same boat. She is definitely not the type to start things. Ever. It's always been me initiating things and foreplay and such. It got so tiring that I basically gave up. Figured I'd just take care of myself with Palmela. It sucked. Never fulfilled. 20+ years of marriage. Then I sorta stumbled into male chastity and did a crap ton of reading.

    In January I bought a few cheapo and we had a sit down talk about it. She agreed to try it but isn't one to fully hold the key. I've learned to shift my mind focus to her. We are still in an ever e week or month cycle. As I've been locked up that time, I always make sure she gets a good O before I'm unlocked. I need to start on a more weekly basis but am apprehensive. I want her to deny me. Weekly but we haven't gotten there. She knows I want out and I know she enjoys PIV. She hasn't given me a handjob in years and never a blowjob. I don't think she would understand a ruined. She did partially read the book locked in love but never finished it. I want her to read another one but haven't bought it.
     
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    This poster on another thread describes a couple of women with responsive libidos.
     
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    This sounds oh so familiar. Not wanting to turn to porn, I also stumbled on MC. After a couple years of being patient, learning a degree of self-control (she is still scared of Chasity devices), we’ve gotten to the point where she will initiate “dirty talk“ over texts. We are now openly talking long-term denial, as in the number of orgasms I will have the rest of this year will be on single digits; probably less than five. Meanwhile, she’s getting used to at least four to five orgasms a week.

    Seeing my wife’s bright, happy face after two powerful orgasms responding to my question, “Who deserves all the orgasms?” “I do!!” Has been worth it all.
     
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