Covid-19 and Life

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    Very interesting, indeed.

    Matches a few concerns I've had, though I had expected the "Vaxxxine"/ gene therapy would cause the body to learn to attack its own cells, rather than suppress the cancer response. That is unexpected.
    I wonder if the DNA modification is actually NOT the cause, exactly, but rather, the mutations in the cells are causing certain bloodlines to die.
    Not sure if I mentioned, but since I re-watched Stargate - the Asgard were Grey Aliens. (There are Greys, Insectoids, Saurians, supposedly.) Now, like we see in Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Grey Aliens basically all look the same. In Stargate, they were presented as a genetically engineered race.
    Well, why not? Seriously! What have viruses been doing, as someone else noticed here: much of our DNA is from viruses, we think. And we don't "normally" have mitochondria, the theory being that mitochondria are actually a bacterial organism that learned to live in our bodies and be helpful. The game Parasite Eve? Based on this discovery, concept wise. (Japanese Lunacy aside. Game just used the concept.)

    Now, where my mind goes: Did the Greys become genetically engineered by choice, or because a government "decided" what was best for the race, and engineered them?
    Are we going to do the same?
    Scary thought.
     
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    Johns Hopkins University professor Dr. Marty Makary, an actual expert, is not a happy camper. He angrily told the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic during its first hearing last week that "the greatest perpetrator of misinformation during the pandemic has been the United States government.”
    CLIP: Spicy excerpt of Dr. Makary testimony to House Covid Committee (2:08).

    Dr. Makary didn’t mince words. A real expert, Dr. Makary accused the government’s public health establishment of lying, of “weaponizing medical research” with manipulated, fraudulent studies. You don’t have to believe me— believe Dr. Makary:
     
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    AS THE LATE GREAT B.B. KING WOULD SAY

    “ ... The Thrill Is Gone ...”

    as

    Only 2% Of Americans Have Received New Chinese Coronavirus Vaccine
    About 2 percent of all Americans have received the updated Chinese Coronavirus booster shot after it was authorized and recommended by federal health officials several weeks ago, according to updated data provided by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

    More than 7 million Americans have taken the updated shot, which is authorized for people aged 6 months and older, said an HHS spokesman. That's approximately 2 percent of all Americans.


    See:
    https://tinalexander.github.io/notes/2023/10#hhs-spokesperson-on-new-covid-19-vaccination-figures

    MEMO TO: All Democraps, Progressives, Socialists and Left wingers, boost like you have never been boosted before. I hear it's safe to boost every other week. Please boost like your life depends on it. And .... don’t forget 3 masks are better than 1!

    You won’t be sorry ... and the rest of us will be better in the long-run.



     
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    I feel guilty for laughing at that.
     
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    We can but hope!

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    Watched a lot of podcasts and read many hundreds , perhaps thousands of articles about the Plandemic. We just finished watching this one with Stella Paul being interviewed on Epoch Times. Perhaps the best step my step explanation of how the hospitals were turned into kill centers we have seen . The more I watched, the more enraged I became. Murder most foul, no equivocation. Urge you to watch this, and share widely.
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/epoch...xEDG+5G8dn7hUBxBR4gOp62OgN+4Q+0SSqYzSTFnLGk2d
     
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    Another perspective about how the vax is killing people. Statistically, 25% of the population is unvaxed. All things being equal, that implies that if the vax had nothing to do with young healthy people dying suddenly, that 25% of those that die suddenly should be unvaxed. But the reality is that 0.1% of those that die suddenly are unvaxed. Eventually this type of news will become mainstream and people will begin to realize that their government and the pharmacuitical industry, and the media all conspired to force people to take an ineffective and dangerous substance.
    The "died suddenly" vax vs. unvaxxed statistics tell you everything you need to know (kirschsubstack.com)
     
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    I like your thought, but I guess there is a statistical reason for this.

    More elderly people, people with underlying conditions like heart deseases, asthma, systemic illnesses and so on get vaxxed than healthy people, that didnt have the vaccination.

    To clarify this you have to use data.
    It would be interresting.
    Where are your from?
     
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    I'm from the US. The article references here the statistics came from. Of course, now a-days, there really isn't a trustworthy source anywhere, least of all the CDC, academia, or the media. So, there is a lot of winging it and gut. Considering only those in the sudden death age bracket, 16% of thoes under under 50 are unvaxed.

    So maybe using 25% may be considering too many old folks. Perhaps a better number would be 16%. That is still way higher than .1%.

    My statistics are from: US Coronavirus vaccine tracker | USAFacts

    At the end of the day, I'm just glad my family and I did not get vax'd.
     
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    Well I got vaxxed and so my whole family except my children.
    Still living and hope, it will stay like this. Hehe.

    My mother is severely ill with a heart desease. She had a viral myocarditis over 25 years ago and suffered lots of her pumping power and her heart got insufficient. But she is still on tour and really fit in comparison to other elderly people. The reason she gets vaxxed against every illness she can find.

    I dont trust so called fact sites. On both sides. You always have to double check what they are writing.

    They say, that they are using official data so this data should accessible for everybody.

    We do this in Germany a lot. There are statistical isntitutes that collect all data available.
    And of course deaths, people who got vaxxed and so on.
    They collect it for all over germany and for the Bundesländer.

    It should be easy to fit deathcounts over the number of vaccinations and compare Bundesländer with a low vaxxinationrate with Bundesländer who have a higher one.

    There was a study several months ago from germany that worked with data of excess deaths and found to the conclusion, that the vaccination is maybe to be made responsible with these excess deaths. (not sure if there have been any follow up studies)

    It would be nice ti see if there exist similar counts between US and Germany.

    This could give an orientation, if there is a link between vaxxxing and excess deaths.
     
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    The problem is, they made it political. Once I heard the president of the US telling me I was going to die if I didn't get vax'd, I knew I'd better not get vax'd. Once he told me I would get fired if I didn't get vax'd, I doubled down on not getting vax'd. And once I actually did get fired even though I worked from home, because I didn't get vax'd, I knew I made the right decision. The corruption of the US political system is so thick, that the clearest way to know what direction is right, is to go in the opposite direction of where they want you to go.
     
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    Your last sentence is somehow true. There are so many examples in recent but also in former history, that the politicians turned 180 degrees.
    Especially the corona story gives lots of powder for reasoned complaints.

    One point that makes me misbelieve in what they tell and what they do.

    But just believing in that they always are telling the opposite of what is correct doesnt prove a thing. It does only prove that they did wrong choices and built a bad government.

    And in a world where hybrid warfare is getting more and more common we have to be careful, what to believe.

    So best is to check it for oneself. This costs much time and power, but is necessary I think.

    By the way we havent been forced directly for vaxxinations here and I know nobody in my hospital I work in, or in other jobs who has been fired for not to be vaxxinated.
    And also they didnt tell us here, that we all will die.
    They just fired the fear of wjat ever all the time.

    If I find time between cleaning my fridge, which suffered an explosion of currant nectar which turned into wine now, repairing my cars, broken camber plate, and broken automatic shift gear box, and dampening my basement ceiling I will try to find data for a graph to show if it is possible to find some links.

    I am planning this since months, but always something hits my plans. So it could take some time.
     
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    Plus the experts are always wrong.
     
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    There are one of two realities: 1) they are benevolent but incompetent. 2) They are corrupted by money and power. There is a theory that I subscribe to in engineering called "Ocam's Razor" which states (paraphrased) that the simplest explanation is likely the correct one. In other words, you can get the correct answer by simply asking, what is most likely. Is it more likely that the government with all it's money, all it's power, all it's people, are incompetent? Or is it more likely that all that power, and all that money has corrupted the institutions so they are constantly in pursuit of more money and more power?

    It's fair to debate both scenarios. There are those that believe governments are benevolent. You have to ask though, in the history of the world as we know it, how many governments are benevolent? How many governments really have your best interests at heart? Would the US run a 33Trillion dollar deficit and climbing because they care for the citizenry? Or is there a rush to grab as much money as they can and distribute it to their cronies before the money runs out? It's a debatable point, I grant you that. But when you know they lie, and when you know they steal, believing they have my best interests at heart rather than their interests is difficult for me to believe.

    Which leaves the other scenario as the more likely Ocam's Razor outcome. They do what they do because they are corrupted by money and power.

    So when they give billions of dollars to pharmaceutical companies, when they indemnify those companies, when they take donations from those companies, when they lie about the origins of the virus, when they lie about the dangers of the virus, when they lie about the safety of the virus, it becomes ever the more obvious that they are not benevolent. Did some people benefit from the vax? Probably. Did people benefit from alternative therapies? Certainly. Was the Covid pandemic an opportunity for a money and power grab? You bet.
     
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    I'm not sure I FULLY agree with this. I guess it depends on the "expert" or if it's "experts". That said, in the context of this discussion, I'd agree with you much more than I'd disagree with you! ;-)
     
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    Toronto Star owner cutting 600 jobs at regional papers, seeking bankruptcy protection for unit
    Daily papers will continue to operate in print and online
    The Canadian Press · Posted: Sep 15, 2023 1:14 PM EDT | Last Updated: September 15

    The corporate parent of the Toronto Star is putting its regional newspaper business into bankruptcy protection and axing about 600 jobs in the process. The Toronto Star itself is not part of the proceedings. (Andrew Lahodynskyj/Canadian Press)

    Nordstar, the company that owns the Toronto Star and other newspapers, announced Friday that it is seeking bankruptcy protection for the unit that owns more than 70 local newspapers and axing more than 600 jobs in the process.

    Nordstar says it is putting its Metroland Media Group division into creditor protection under the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act as part of a restructuring plan.

    The Metroland business owns dozens of community newspapers delivered alongside advertising flyers. Nordstar says it is getting out of the flyer business entirely and converting the newspapers to a digital-only format.

    The move will mean the loss of 605 jobs or about 60 per cent of its total workforce.

    'Unsustainable financial losses'
    Metroland said the decision is a result of unsustainable financial losses stemming from the changing preferences of consumers and advertisers.

    "The media industry continues to face existential challenges, largely because digital tech giants have used their dominant positions to take the vast majority of the advertising revenue in Canada," the company said in a statement.

    "The decline of the print and flyer distribution business was significantly accelerated by the COVID-19 pandemic, and by the reduction of flyer usage both by readers and advertisers as a marketing vehicle."

    Under the plan, Metroland's community publications will move to a digital only model.

    Meanwhile, the company's six daily newspapers, including the Hamilton Spectator, Peterborough Examiner, St. Catharines Standard, Niagara Falls Review, Welland Tribune, and the Waterloo Region Record, will continue both in print and online.

    Move comes after failed merger talks
    The changes follow the failure of talks earlier this year between NordStar and Postmedia concerning a potential merger.

    The two companies were in talks regarding a possible deal that would have seen Postmedia and Metroland Media Group combine forces, while the Toronto Star would be managed by a new company.

    News outlets have been under pressure for years as online giants like Google and Facebook owner Meta have scooped up advertising dollars.

    Earlier this year, Ottawa passed the Online News Act, which will force digital giants to pay media outlets for content they share or repurpose on their platforms.

    Meta and Google responded to the legislation by announcing they will block content from Canadian news publishers from their services before the law comes into force.
     
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    Health Canada’s startling admission confirms secret DNA contamination discovered in COVID-19 vaccines

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    The agency has acknowledged the presence of at least one undisclosed plasmid DNA sequence in COVID-19 vaccine vials, raising concerns about public safety and regulatory diligence, especially amid ongoing missing information and lack of long-term safety data.
    By Tamara Ugolini | October 20, 2023 News Analysis

    Health Canada, responsible for authorizing and regulating the novel mRNA injections, admitted that they have confirmed the presence of at least one plasmid DNA sequencer in the vials of COVID-19 vaccines that were undisclosed by the manufacturer.

    Responding to an email media request from the Epoch Times, the agency said that “it was possible for Health Canada to confirm the presence of the enhancer based on the plasmid DNA sequence submitted by Pfizer against the published SV40 enhancer sequence."

    Additionally, Health Canada is quoted as saying that "[al]though the full DNA sequence of the Pfizer plasmid was provided at the time of initial filing, the sponsor did not specifically identify the SV40 sequence.”

    Genomics expert Kevin McKernan discovered this anomaly accidentally and shared his findings with Rebel News.

    “This is something that helps promote the antibiotic resistance that is the backbone of these vectors,” McKernan told Rebel News of the SV40 promoter in April earlier this year.

    “If this DNA is at high levels inside these vaccines then that promoter could integrate into the genome and there’s concern with injecting high amounts of SV-40 promoters because there is a risk it will be promoting the expression of genes inappropriate in the genome.. if this gets to the sperm or the egg and there’s integration into those cell lines then it could pass on to the next generation. If there are any LNPs (lipid nanoparticles) getting to the ovaries – and we’ve seen some evidence in biodistribution studies that is the case – then one has to be concerned over whether this increases the odds of genome integration.”

    Concerns around the instability and lack of regulatory oversight of LNPs were first shared with Rebel News anonymously in November of 2021.

    These recent revelations have prompted an international panel of medical professionals and scientists to call for an immediate moratorium on the use of novel injections until more research and conclusive investigations can be conducted.

    https://www.rebelnews.com/health_ca...contamination_discovered_in_covid_19_vaccines View attachment 68739

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    The U.S. company I work for (a multi billion dollar company) forced all employees to get vaccinated or face disciplinary action...(even though I work from home and never come in contact with other employees, I still had to get it or risk being fired).

    About a month or so after I took the stupid shot (and right after their draconian imposed deadline), they backtracked and rescinded the mandate.
     
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    Nice that the plans of climatemanipulation are mentioned. I guess nobody "usual" knows this.

    Yesterday I visited the book fair in Frankfurt am Main. I could speak to an author which wrote a book abaout the same topic. As a science thriller.
    And she mentioned, that litterally NOBODY knows what they are planning with our athmosphere and that the effects arent clear and likely to be dangerous.

    As I remember climate manipulation and the research for it is even forbidden in EU.

    We chatted a bit about writing and ideas ( I am an author by myself) and got some nice ideas together. For her or our next novel. Was kind of interesting.
     
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