The Official "Permanent" Caged/Denial Matrix post.

I think I am at an 8,8 on the scale.

 

3.2

 

I'm thinking more as a complement to Tom's matrix, something like "Keyholder Experience"

How automated is his chastity/denial:

0 = She exercises total day-to-day control.
10 = Works according to a fixed system​

How neutered is he?

0 = She has penetrative sex with him.
10 = She never sees his uncaged penis.​

A dynamic could be 10/10 on this matrix and still score low on Tom's Matrix.

 

I made a mistake and am more of a 7/7. Then my KH saw this said I am more 7 cage and 5 denial. So officially I am a 7/5 and accused of being over dramatic because it has only been just over 2 months so far.

 

Guys in general don't tend to be over-dramatic. But going for more than 16 hours without an orgasm (or at least serious penis play and attention from a gorgeous woman) is definitely an excellent reason to be dramatic.

 

This is a good example of why we need the third axis so instead of a matrix we get a terrain. The third axis should be time.

It puts context onto the other numbers. For example the last time my cock was out of the cage was 18 Mar and I've had a few orgasms in the cage since, the last on 18 May.

So I could be a 10/10 if we consider the last two weeks going down to a 10/8 looking at the last 2 months. But over the last three years it goes back to a 8/7.

But what would the scale be?
0 = less than a week
1 = 1 week or more
2 = 2 weeks or more
3 = 1 month or more
4 = 2 months or more
5 = 3 months or more
6 = 6 months or more
7 = 1 year or more
8 = 2 years or more
9 = 5 years or more
10 = how do you expect me to remember that long (10 years)

So I would be a 8/7/8

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8/9 for me and I am very happy with that. Constant travel and flying means a quick and and out, apart from that I am not allowed to not wear it.

 

I’m like 7/3
It’s been interesting because she wants me locked 24/7 unless she wants to play with me. If she actually does play with me I always have an orgasm, she’s never purposely tried to ruin it, it’s not her thing. The chastity and orgasm control is more important to her than denying me full orgasms.

 

The first few times we did the Chastity thing 3/1 she was not invested and I could make myself cum in almost any device.

Since we got serious its been about 6/5 but this last time round since 7/15/22 with her adamant to do anything to make this work and my commitment to invest in her pleasure above mine at all costs its been 9/9 so far if you consider a wet dream as a climax, and an exchange for a plastic cage for travel being "out".

If the exchange with like 5min free to do so was not being "out" and the involuntary emission not counting its been 10/10 for 325 days!

She has said and I agree, I am the happiest I have ever been where we are now and see no reason it should change. She is the happiest she has ever been and has no plan to change it either.
We not planning on traveling by air for quite some time and I am in great physical health, so....

That being the case we at least at 9/9 if not 10/10!

 

that’s great and exactly where we are (aside from the length of time). My wife is determined this time that a full permanent zero orgasm lifestyle is the best for us as I am so polite and nice, so loving and giving. After a few years of a couple of months here and there it seems to have clicked for her. I just wish I didn’t have to fly as much as I do but it’s a quick off for security and on again within minutes. She could tell easily if I slipped up and to be honest I don’t work to anyway.

 

I’m confused! I thought elsewhere on this site it had been determined by consensus that you can fly whilst caged?

 

Yes you can but the metal one goes off in the security scanner so mine comes off in the toilet before security, in the carryon luggage, then back on straight after passing through. My wife approves of this

 

Am I correct, tho, that it’s permitted provided you say it’s not removable? It’d be good to know before I end up wasting money on an airfare or end up causing a security logjam whilst men in uniforms get to work on me with an angle grinder!

 

Well, for the past 6 months iv'e been a

8/9 or maybe a 8/10 (untill last sunday. My first orgams of ANY kind since Feb 1st, locked since Jan 1st)
What an incredible experience......

Don't think i'd ever get to a 10/10, certanly an 8/9, 8/10 no problem for her.

 

My understanding is that it's not illegal, but keep in mind you may feel a little embarrassed when the alarm goes off. I was wearing a plastic one to travel as it goes through and is not picked up. I don't want the hassle of the alarm going off so I take one off. I also travel in the Middle East and they will have different views I think

 

6,7

 

Ah, I meant that it’s only been two months of using the cage 24/7 so he has no idea what his “situation” is. He’s orgasmed during the past 2 months but I’m testing out different lengths of time and different types of orgasms. Once I figure out the optimal combination he can report back to y’all. Might take a while

 

I haven’t looked at this thread in a while but with recent events, it has been on my mind again.

I was recently in the hospital for a high fever and possible gal stones. When they took me back for a CAT scan, my KH kept the key and I was in the cage so I needed to disclose it. Now my Dr knows and she sees no need to remove it for physicals and check ups. I have an urology appointment coming up and she plans to go and bring the key if needed.

With that, I’ve moved to a 9/8 on the scale. I do t know if it’ll go further,but it’s still trending that way.

 

Because the timeframes can be long and you have multiple release options to try (full, ruined, milking), it can take quite awhile to find an optimal combo. Have you found something that works for you yet?

I'm a 9 on the first number. The 2nd number I'm not sure of based on the descriptions. I only get full orgasms, no ruins or milkings, and they happen about every 4-8 weeks. This works for us because it keeps from a drop in attitude and motivation. When they happen more frequently, things go sideways.

 

It's "man gardening". The man needs a little of this, and a little of that, to produce the desired fruit. Water, fertilizer, sun, weeding. Tease, denial, chores, punishments. Balanced carefully, in the hands of a master gardener, the results are amazing.

 

8 , 7 basically always caged . Very occasionally allowed to cum and always caged .

 

I’m sure it was far more of a deal to me that to the tech and the Dr. Up until then, only one other person knew about my cage and we don’t really see her anymore.

Before I laid down on the CAT scan table, the tech said that I would be scanned from the groin to the rib cage and asked if he needed to know anything before the scan as a different (off site) Dr would be reading the scan. I wanted to stay silent as I was wearing an HT nub with just a tiny metal lock, but I didn’t know if the metal would throw the scan off at all.

I decided to play it safe and say that I was wearing some minor body jewelry with a small amount of metal. I hoped that he’s assume I had a piercing and leave it at that. Instead he asked for more detail so he could be sure it was OK. I sheepishly said that it was a chastity device and that if it needed to be removed they would have to bring my wife in to remove it since I didn’t have the key. He didn’t understand and so I had to explain a bit on how it worked. I think he had a bit of a smile ( though that may have been in my head) and he indicated that it would be fine and he would explain it to the Dr if the Dr had any questions.

All in all, it wasn’t as big a deal as I was afraid it would be, but I do enjoy reliving it in my memory for the embarrassment of it. Itwas definitely fun for my wife though. She said that given this is the new normal for us I should be prepared for medical people to find out and that it isn’t really any different than some one who has a piercing.

I suspect that my PCP now knows about the cage as well since he has received the records from the ER visit along with the images from the scan. I haven’t had a visit since then but I am unsure what to say if he asks me about it.