Religious discussion (continued from “Christianity and Chastity”)

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    Not sure if you’re saying that seriously or sarcastically…?
     
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    Maybe JaySaysYes could help.
     
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    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he makes a “helpful” comment shortly. :)
     
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    Responsible for?
     
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    Yeah. Responsible for.
    You disagree?
     
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    Kinkiest thing? You really don't understand the chastity lifestyle. Sure, some guys in chastity have very kinky lives, but that is not what is at the core of chastity. Chastity in itself is not inherently kinky. My wife beating my arse with a crop, well that is a bit risqué.
     
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    Lol. So your hypothesis is that religious people are responsible for me being in chastity. I think that the oness is on you to explain your farout whacky theory.
     
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    Sorry that was aimed at @nebula88
     
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    If you JaySaysYes his name three times I think he is summoned
     
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    You have to use the @ tho
     
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    I don't think we'll need to... JaySaysYes
     
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    One thing I was never quite sure of with Beetlejuice lore: is it that he appears upon every third mention, or does it need to be a deliberate triple invocation? And if the latter, is there some defined refractory period between utterances of the name after which the process re-sets and requires a fresh start-up?
    I mean, if I said it on Monday, then Wednesday, then not again til the following Monday, would that still work?
     
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    Well, yeah. Haven't you ever heard that Catholic girls are the wildest in bed? And there are tons of stories on the preacher's daughter. Seriously though. I think religion adds a dynamic to sex, kind of puts it in a special place spiritually. Don't forget, the bible essentially starts with sex (adam and eve)
     
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    My bad, I guess I wasn't precise with my words (and I guess chastity isn't considered kinky here lol).

    I guess what I mean is who would've guess that it is the religious people who are responsible for the creation of the device (and later lifestyle) we all love and enjoy :):)

    Why would I be sarcastic? lol
     
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    And just to add. Families that have 11 kids. I think you'll find every one of them is religious. There's a lot of something going on.
     
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    My KTB basically functions like a cilice
     
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    I have no idea what either of those are haha

    I wonder if there's any correlation in regards to the type of religion. I know muslims generally breed like rabbits, but they don't come across as the demographics that would be into the chastity life.
     
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    The KTB is a Kali’s Teeth Bracelet: a spiked collar locked onto my penis which causes pain if I get excited.
    A cilice is a spiked metal accessory traditionally worn by some Christian ascetics as a form of self-mortification.
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    My guess is that Muslims would consider a chasity device to be haram.
     
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    A little late to the party here, but I find the topic interesting. I’ve read most of the books, as best I could, considering they are a bit tedious and usually someone’s translation of a translation.

    I have observed that the stories are similar, to a point that if it were the publishing industry, a copyright law or two would certainly would be broken.

    One thing I found interesting was the core of the Muslim religion was based on the fundamental principles of adherence to the rules of other religions. Religion on steroids so to speak. Of course they are a bit closer to Jewish and Old Testament than the modern New Testament and Christianity.

    I myself believe that if religion institutions could have sold the idea of chastity, device and all, they would have. Different sectors of Christianity arose with differing levels of morality. Some would have embraced it thoroughly, but would not have competed well against others.

    Which brings me to what religion really is trying to do. They are selling. Selling ideas, selling fears, selling behaviors, selling rituals. We pay, with money, with obedience, with blind faith.

    So I think that religion and chastity could and would commingle, and that it’s right on the money with many of them. It would probably come with exceptions. I doubt very much that affluent married men giving up their sexual freedom to their wives would be easy to sell. Selling the story that women are the property of men, and must obey them was a much easier sell.
     
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    #296 Muppet, May 4, 2024
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    Not quite sure where you’re going with this “they’re selling” assertion.
    You can say the same of anything really….
    “You know what restaurants are really doing? They’re selling. Selling starters, selling main courses, desserts and drinks. We pay, with money, with the work we do to get the money, with the servicing of our insatiable appetites for delicious food.”
    “You know what hospitals are really doing? They’re selling. Selling medicines, selling surgery, selling care, selling health-related advice. We pay, with money, with our insurance, with taxation…”
     
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    Yes it's the same. Religion is a sales pitch, but the salesmen, and it is usually men, believe in the product. I think @Nicoftime makes an interesting point.
     
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    I found it a banal point. Obviously everyone sells something in order to thrive. But the selling isn’t the point. The product or service is the point.
    And of course religion predates selling - unless one stretches the meaning of “selling” so far as to lose all specificity of meaning.
    Also, what about Martin Luther? Ok so he was a filthy heretic, but he wasn’t selling. He was objecting to selling.
     
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    St Paul made and sold tents for a living, incidentally.
     
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    Religious groups who strongly advocate chastity tend to die out, for obvious reasons.
     
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