Does God exist

It's on par with raping a virgin and telling the world it was divine.

 

Perfectly fair comparison. I don't play favorites

 

Me neither, but it's off topic in the context of whether the rapist exists or not.

 

Mate if religion doesn't exist who care's about feelings? Idk who said that to me Quran says to kill the non believers where is that at mate? And in 6th century it was common that girl would get married at the age if six. There were so many enemies of Islam but non of them seems to be bothered with being married to a 6 year old why is that? Abu lahab who was against islam he was against everything but when prophet Muhammad SM pbuh married Aisa (R.) He didn't seem to care at all. I mean now i know why don't you believe in god cause you guys never learned history and science properly lol. Tell me why did it took you guys extra like 1200 years to end racism against black people?

 

Still waiting on you to fess up your honorable infallible prophet married a child.

 

Damn you are an illiterate can't even read the laws which are in English mate. You illiterate because your dad left you. It's sad mate. You are living for nothingness.

 

Still not an answer is it? Where did all that logic go? Bold assumptions about my life and what I live for. I'm not the clinging to a kiddy diddling prophet to justify my existence.

 

Is this not an answer?
He declared, further, that this society had urgent need to pronounce itself on the subject of the so-called age of consent laws. Girls are deemed capable of controlling property only at their majority, but States decide not so with their persons. In four States the age of consent is fixed at the shockingly low age of ten years, in four others at twelve, in three at thirteen, and so on, increasing, except in Delaware, where the original statute pertaining to the crime of rape is still unrepealed, fixing the age at seven years. These so-called age of con- sent statutes, which discriminate against girlhood and favor immoral men, are a disgrace to the several States of the Union.

(The New York Times, 15/10/1895, "Purity Congress Meets", page 16)


You know the Truth it hurts but you will ignore it cause it will expose your lies. If you still say ahh I don't bla bla bla. It is the prove that you are indeed blind.

 

The truth he is he married a child. Another truth its rampant in Islam. Look at the dancing boys in afghanistan. Child abuse, and a horrific record of human rights violations towards women are well documented. Yet you refuse to address it and call it infallible. It's really quite telling honestly.

 

I'm not sure what we're discussing here, but quoting an article from 1895 is irrelevant to today. Our country was just a couple years past the civil war. Women still didn't have the right to vote. There s is no state in the country today where the age of consent is lower than 16. And that's the same whether you are a male or a female.

The main point is that sexual predation is not specific to religion. It exists in all power structures. It sucks but it is not an indictment of religion. You can argue that religion should do more to root out sexual predation. I agree. I think our culture, and our government should do more too. In a previous post you were down on Mohammed because he took a child bride. Is that what your point is all about? At that time, the custom was that a female that had her first menstrual cycle was old enough to marry. You might say, well that's too young. And I'd agree. But picking an age, say 16-18, may make sense, but age is arbitrary while having a period is not. So don't condemn Islam because of the cultural norms of the day of Mohammad.

 

I will 100% condemn marrying a six year old in any situation, at any time. That's sick and predatory if it was a 1000 years ago or yesterday. The human rights violations under islam law still rack up today. Women are second class citizens with no rights.

 

The girl was 9, not 6. Regardless, you live today, not back then. And it wasn't specific to Islam. I agree with you. Marrying a 9 year old is crazy and society should outlaw it. Islam, to this day, says you can "marry" at any age, but you can't "consummate" it till they reach puberty. Even so, I agree with you, that is too young. I am certainly not the guy to defend Islam. I don't believe in it, I believe it is wrong on many levels, the age of marriage being one of them. But you seem to more concerned about that, than the depravity and exploitation of women of all ages in western society today. Personally, I am more appalled at dressing up an 8 year old as a transvestite or a sex goddess and prancing them around in a library or pagent than I am with the marriage practices of an ancient religion. The west has little moral ground to stand on when judging the age of marriage in Islam.

 

He married her at six. Waited till nine to bed her to be exact. Again human rights violations against children and women are still rampant in islam. It wasn't a 1400 year ago problem is its an ongoing one. I also agree beauty pageants are disgusting but those parents aren't claiming to be a prophet of god so it's ok.

 

I didn’t see that as the original question. I thought the subject was ‘if you believed God exists’.

This is obviously a contentious subject for many, and accepting that others have differing views is just something we should be respectful of. There is no reason for debate.

As @Mr_anonymous and @Tricky- are showing, you can’t change someone’s beliefs. Debating this just causes anger and shows the worst in people.

 

I mean western people can't even read a analogue clock let alone do a proper servay lol. Where is the great wall of china is at? Japanese xD

 

If you know science then show me that in darwin book of evolution he says amino acids and nucleotides somehow made the first cell in warm water. He is the father of evolution i am not mistaken. Then macro evolution where? Show me a scientific data/research/result/documents proving it I will become atheist then lastly why haven't you shown me a copy like the Quran? Show me which can replace the Quran.

 

No humans don't care about feelings and morality if their is no afterlife. If i kill you and their is no afterlife then who is going to judge that i killed you? I can do what ever i want. Stealing peoples money etc. 80% of the people agrees that if religion wasn't a thing they would have lead a worse life. Look at American right now. Developed country? More like a failed county if this continues to happen there will be no next generation in like 10-20 years or so. Reason? Moral degradation why? Cause they don't believe in god. You think i am making it up? Go seach it.

 

Bah, wrong. I do not really believe in an afterlife. That is completely irrelevant to who I am as a person and how I treat others. I believe in right and wrong. Not because if I do something wrong I'll be going to hell, or not going to heaven. I do it because it is the correct thing to do. My moral compass is not about the afterlife. Not at all. I agree that we live with a ton of immoral people. They are immoral, not because they don't believe in an afterlife, but because no one ever taught them what is right and wrong. Religion helps teach people right from wrong, but it is not the only way.

But I get your point and basically you are right. Our society is fucked. I believe that belief in God would help, but simply teaching people the basics, even without God and religion, is all that is needed. For some reason, if I tell someone, "stealing is wrong", they would think I'm preaching some religion to them. It has nothing to do with religion (in the sense of organizations). Of course you could define "religion" as a common belief system. Then sure, we lack religion. But it doesn't need "God". Eastern religions don't have a diety. Yet they have morals. That's my point.